1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,840 Welcome to the Deep Dive. Today, we're going to be exploring something called 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,560 2FAuth. 3 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:07,840 It's a self-hosted web app for managing your two-factor authentication. 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:13,600 You can kind of think of it as like having your own personal Google authenticator, 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,520 but with a twist. You control all your data. And before we get started, a quick 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,240 shout out to Safe 7 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:22,010 Server. Not only do they handle the hosting for 2FAuth, but they're also 8 00:00:22,010 --> 00:00:23,040 experts in helping 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,680 businesses like yours. We'll navigate the world of digital transformation. If that 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,480 sounds intriguing, 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,440 you can head over to www.safeserver.de. Yeah, it's interesting because most of us 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,160 are just used to 13 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:38,400 handing over our data to big companies, but 2FAuth kind of flips the script 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,200 when you think about 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,240 it. Two-factor authentication codes are kind of like the keys to your most 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,360 important accounts. 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,380 It makes sense that people would want more control over them. Okay, yeah, I'm 18 00:00:47,380 --> 00:00:48,000 starting to see the 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,370 appeal, but maybe let's back up a bit for those who are new to this. What exactly 20 00:00:52,370 --> 00:00:53,200 is 2FAuth, 21 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,030 and why would someone choose to self-host their 2FA in the first place? Sure, so 22 00:00:57,030 --> 00:00:57,840 2FAuth is 23 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,440 basically a tool that helps you manage all those pesky 2FA codes. You know the ones 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,040 you get from 25 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,420 apps like Google Authenticator or Offee, but instead of relying on those third-party 26 00:01:07,420 --> 00:01:07,920 services, 27 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,240 2FAuth lets you store and generate those codes on your own server. So it's 28 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:12,560 like having 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,360 your own private Fort Knox for your 2FA codes. Exactly, and the reason someone 30 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,120 might choose to 31 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,920 self-host is because it gives them more control over their data and security. They're 32 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:22,400 not relying 33 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,640 on a third party to keep their information safe. Plus, as you dig into 2FAuth, 34 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,120 you'll see it 35 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,960 offers a level of flexibility and customization that you just don't get with 36 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:32,240 standard 2FA apps. 37 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,320 So more control, more security, more flexibility. It's starting to sound pretty 38 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:36,560 good, 39 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,720 but I have to admit the idea of self-hosting anything makes me a little nervous. 40 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:40,960 Isn't it a 41 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:44,260 lot of work? Yeah, it can seem daunting, but the creator of 2FAuth, a 42 00:01:44,260 --> 00:01:45,760 developer named Bubka, 43 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,920 actually built it because they were frustrated with existing 2FA solutions. 44 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:55,200 Imagine having dozens of 2FA codes scattered across different apps and devices. No 45 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:55,680 easy way 46 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,300 to back them up and the constant hassle of switching between devices. Oof, that 47 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:00,480 sounds 48 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,400 like a nightmare. I've definitely been there desperately trying to find the right 2FA 49 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,040 code 50 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,800 while logging into an important account. Right. Bubka wanted something more 51 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,480 streamlined and secure, 52 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,080 but also something they had full control over. That's the beauty of 2FAuth. 53 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:14,800 It simplifies 54 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,620 the whole 2FA experience while giving you the reins. So it's not just for tech wizards 55 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:20,160 then? 56 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,400 Not at all. Two of Fourth actually offers different installation methods to cater 57 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:24,560 to 58 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,980 different technical skill levels. You can set it up on your own server if you're 59 00:02:27,980 --> 00:02:29,360 comfortable with that, 60 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,840 but they also have options for using Docker or Heroku, which are more beginner-friendly 61 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:34,560 platforms. 62 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,040 Okay, that makes me feel a little better. But let's get into the nitty gritty. What 63 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,280 are some 64 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,710 of the key features that make Two of Fourth stand out? One of the things I find 65 00:02:43,710 --> 00:02:44,640 most impressive is 66 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:48,740 that Two of Fourth isn't just about generating codes. It's about managing your 67 00:02:48,740 --> 00:02:49,600 entire 2FA 68 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,980 ecosystem. You can organize your accounts into groups, edit details, and even add 69 00:02:53,980 --> 00:02:54,480 accounts 70 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,720 manually if you don't have a QR code. Wait, manually adding accounts? That's a game 71 00:02:58,720 --> 00:02:59,360 changer. 72 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,920 I've definitely run into situations where I needed to set up 2FA, but couldn't find 73 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:04,880 that initial QR 74 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,800 code. Exactly, and since it's a web app, you can access your 2F dashboard from any 75 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,560 device with a 76 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,120 browser. No more being tethered to your phone just for 2FA codes. All right, that's 77 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:15,840 definitely 78 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,960 winning me over. But what of security? You mentioned that being a key driver for Bupka, 79 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,840 but how does 2FF stack up against the big players like Google Authenticator when it 80 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,570 comes to keeping your data safe? That's a great question, and one that deserves a 81 00:03:29,570 --> 00:03:30,640 deeper dive. 82 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:34,160 One of the key things to remember is that with self-hosting, you're taking on the 83 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:34,880 responsibility 84 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,460 of securing your own server, but 2FF doesn't leave you hanging. They've built in 85 00:03:39,460 --> 00:03:40,480 multiple layers of 86 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,680 protection, starting with the option to encrypt all your sensitive data. Encryption 87 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,280 is always a 88 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,010 good thing, but isn't that pretty standard for 2FA apps these days? True, but 2FF 89 00:03:50,010 --> 00:03:51,040 goes further by 90 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,450 offering modern authentication methods, like security keys, like the popular YubiKey. 91 00:03:56,450 --> 00:03:56,560 These 92 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,280 add an extra layer of hardware-based security that's extremely difficult to 93 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,440 compromise. Plus, 94 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,720 it has automatic logout after inactivity and is built to meet industry security 95 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,560 standards. 96 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,640 Okay, so they're not messing around when it comes to security, but I'm still 97 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:11,200 curious about the 98 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:17,360 encryption part. If I choose to encrypt my data, does that mean even the 2FF 99 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,080 developers can't 100 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,450 access it? That's right. If you choose to encrypt your 2F ADA, you hold the 101 00:04:22,450 --> 00:04:23,920 encryption key and no 102 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,640 one else. Not even the developers can access it. It's true data ownership. Wow, 103 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,000 that's impressive. 104 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,790 Seems like they've thought of everything. But what about people who are already 105 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:33,520 using another 106 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,560 2FA app? Is it a pain to switch over to 2FF? Not at all. 2FF makes migration 107 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,760 incredibly easy. 108 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,100 You can import your data from popular apps like Google Authenticator and Aegis. And 109 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:44,480 they even 110 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,250 support several different file formats. They've clearly put a lot of effort into 111 00:04:48,250 --> 00:04:48,640 making the 112 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,040 transition smooth. That's really thoughtful design, especially for something as 113 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:52,960 security sensitive 114 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,060 as 2FA. So we've covered security, flexibility, and ease of use. What else makes 2F 115 00:04:58,060 --> 00:04:58,880 stand out? 116 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,280 Well, if you're technically inclined, you'll appreciate that 2F offers a REST API. 117 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:04,320 This means 118 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,310 developers can integrate 2FM into other applications or create custom scripts, 119 00:05:09,310 --> 00:05:10,560 opening up a whole world 120 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,470 of possibilities. Oh, the developer's playground. I'm guessing that's not something 121 00:05:14,470 --> 00:05:15,200 the average user 122 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,370 would need to worry about though, right? Probably not. But even for non-developers, 123 00:05:20,370 --> 00:05:21,040 there are browser 124 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,400 extensions that add extra convenience. For example, you can easily copy a 2FA code 125 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,840 with a single click, 126 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:32,670 making the whole process even more seamless. Nice. Those little touches really make 127 00:05:32,670 --> 00:05:33,600 a difference. 128 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,060 Okay, let's shift gears for a moment and talk about the bigger picture. We've 129 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:38,000 talked a lot about the 130 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,060 benefits of self-hosting 2FA with 2FA, but what does this say about the future of 131 00:05:43,060 --> 00:05:44,240 online privacy 132 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,240 and security in general? Are we moving towards a world where we all need to become 133 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:48,720 our own 134 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,020 IT departments? That's a fascinating question, and honestly, I don't think there's 135 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:54,320 a simple answer. 136 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,980 The success of projects like 2FA does show a growing desire for more control over 137 00:05:58,980 --> 00:05:59,520 our digital 138 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,430 lives. We're starting to question the blind trust we've placed in big tech 139 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:04,080 companies, 140 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,240 and exploring alternative models that put individuals back in charge. 141 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,960 You know, I've definitely noticed that shift myself. People are becoming more aware 142 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:13,680 of data 143 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,960 privacy issues and looking for solutions that align with their values. But how 144 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,000 realistic is it 145 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,280 for everyone to self-host their data? It sounds like it requires a certain level of 146 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:25,760 technical 147 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,900 expertise. That's true. There is a learning curve. But just like with any new 148 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:30,560 technology, 149 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,800 the tools are constantly evolving to become more user-friendly. And don't forget 150 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,360 the power of 151 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,760 community. Open source projects like 2F often have vibrant communities that are 152 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:40,320 incredibly 153 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,160 helpful for beginners. So it's like the old saying, it takes a village. Exactly. 154 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:44,400 You don't 155 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,990 have to go it alone. There are forums, tutorials, and even dedicated support 156 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:48,960 channels where you 157 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,760 can get help from experienced users. That's reassuring. But even with those 158 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,240 resources, 159 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,970 self-hosting still feels a little intimidating. Is it worth the effort for the 160 00:06:57,970 --> 00:06:58,960 average person? 161 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,800 What are the real-world implications of taking control of your own data? 162 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,440 Well, think about it this way. When you self-host something like 2FA, you're not 163 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:08,000 just gaining 164 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:13,130 control over your 2FA codes. You're taking control of a critical piece of your 165 00:07:13,130 --> 00:07:14,160 online security 166 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,110 infrastructure. You're making a statement that you're not content with the status 167 00:07:18,110 --> 00:07:18,400 quo, 168 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,960 and that you're willing to take responsibility for your own digital well-being. 169 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,120 That's a powerful way to put it. It's not just about the technical aspects. It's 170 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,160 about shifting 171 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,040 the balance of power back towards the individual. Precisely. And as more people 172 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:33,920 make that shift, 173 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,640 it could have a ripple effect. It could lead to more innovative and user-centric 174 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:38,400 solutions being 175 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:43,100 developed. Solutions that prioritize privacy, security, and individual control. I 176 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:43,360 like the 177 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,350 sound of that. But let's be realistic. There are always trade-offs. What are some 178 00:07:47,350 --> 00:07:48,000 of the potential 179 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,240 downsides or challenges of widespread self-hosting? Would we be trading one set of 180 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:52,880 problems for an 181 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,200 another? Of course no solution is perfect. One of the biggest challenges with self-hosting 182 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:57,360 is 183 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,360 ensuring the security of your own server. When you're relying on a third-party 184 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,240 provider like 185 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,940 Google or Microsoft, they have dedicated security teams and robust infrastructure. 186 00:08:06,940 --> 00:08:07,600 So if I mess up 187 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:13,070 my server configuration or don't keep up with security updates, I could be putting 188 00:08:13,070 --> 00:08:13,760 my data at 189 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,070 risk. That sounds like a lot of pressure. It's definitely something to be aware of. 190 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:18,560 But remember, 191 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,550 there are resources and best practices you can follow to minimize those risks. And 192 00:08:23,550 --> 00:08:24,480 the beauty of 193 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,400 open source software is that security vulnerabilities are often identified and 194 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,680 patched quickly by the 195 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,740 community. That's good to know. But let's be honest, not everyone has the time or 196 00:08:34,740 --> 00:08:35,600 inclination 197 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:41,760 to become a security expert just to manage their 2FA. Is there a happy medium here? 198 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,320 A way to get 199 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,450 the benefits of self-hosting without having to become a sysadmin overnight? There 200 00:08:46,450 --> 00:08:47,120 are definitely 201 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,200 different levels of self-hosting. For example, you could choose to use a managed 202 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,160 hosting provider 203 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,030 which takes care of the server infrastructure and security updates for you. Or you 204 00:08:56,030 --> 00:08:56,640 could start with 205 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,320 something like 2ff which is relatively easy to set up and maintain and gradually 206 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,160 explore other 207 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,920 self-hosting options as you become more comfortable. So it's not an all or nothing 208 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,040 proposition. You can 209 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,010 dip your toes into the self-hosting waters and gradually wade in deeper as your 210 00:09:11,010 --> 00:09:12,480 confidence grows. 211 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,960 Exactly. And who knows, you might even find it empowering and enjoyable. Many 212 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,680 people who embrace 213 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:22,150 self-hosting discover a new sense of control and autonomy over their digital lives. 214 00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:22,720 It's like taking 215 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,250 ownership of your digital destiny. I like that. It's about deciding how and where 216 00:09:27,250 --> 00:09:27,920 your data is 217 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,130 stored, how it's used, and who has access to it. And that's a conversation worth 218 00:09:32,130 --> 00:09:32,800 having whether 219 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,550 you're a tech enthusiast or just someone who values their privacy and security. 220 00:09:37,550 --> 00:09:38,000 Absolutely. 221 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,800 This has been a truly eye-opening discussion. I'm starting to see 2FF not just as a 222 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,760 handy tool but 223 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,480 as a gateway to a whole new way of thinking about our relationship with technology. 224 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:48,880 But before we 225 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,100 get too philosophical, let's bring it back to 2F specifically. For our listeners 226 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:53,920 who are intrigued 227 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:58,480 and want to learn more, what are the best resources to get started? The 2FF website 228 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:58,880 is a great 229 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,550 starting point. They have detailed documentation, FAQs, and a demo you can try out. 230 00:10:03,550 --> 00:10:04,080 And as I mentioned 231 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,810 before, their community forum is incredibly active and helpful, so don't hesitate 232 00:10:07,810 --> 00:10:08,640 to ask questions 233 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,900 or share your experiences. Fantastic. We'll make sure to collude links to all those 234 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:13,680 resources in 235 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:17,180 the show notes. And speaking of resources, let's take a quick moment to thank our 236 00:10:17,180 --> 00:10:18,000 sponsor for this 237 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,800 episode, Safe Server. They are the experts in hosting and digital transformation 238 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,280 and can help 239 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,920 you navigate the exciting and sometimes daunting world of self-hosting. If you're 240 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:28,720 looking for a 241 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:34,970 reliable and secure hosting solution, be sure to check out www.safeserver.de. It's 242 00:10:34,970 --> 00:10:35,360 great to have 243 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,950 partners like Safe Server who are committed to empowering individuals and 244 00:10:38,950 --> 00:10:39,840 businesses to take 245 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,840 control of their digital infrastructure. Agreed. All right, let's wrap up this deep 246 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,560 dive with some 247 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:49,060 final thoughts on 2F-Auth and the future of self-hosting. What's the one key 248 00:10:49,060 --> 00:10:49,680 takeaway 249 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:53,380 you want our listeners to remember? I think the most important thing is that 2F-Auth 250 00:10:53,380 --> 00:10:53,840 offers a 251 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,360 powerful yet surprisingly accessible way to manage your 2F-A and take control of 252 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:58,960 your data. 253 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,840 It's a concrete step you can take today to enhance your online security and privacy. 254 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,750 And who knows, it might even spark a deeper exploration of self-hosting and its 255 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:08,080 potential 256 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,480 to reshape the digital landscape. I love that. It's a small step with potentially 257 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,520 huge implications. 258 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,320 It's inspiring to think that something as seemingly simple as managing your 2F-A 259 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,040 codes 260 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,480 could be a catalyst for a larger movement towards digital empowerment. 261 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Yeah, it really is. You know, at its core, it's about reclaiming our digital agency 262 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,240 and shaping the future of the internet on our own terms. 263 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,880 And 2F-8 provides a very tangible, user-friendly way to start that journey. 264 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,920 Absolutely. It's a practical tool with a really powerful message. 265 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,590 So as we wrap up this deep dive, what's the one question you'd like to leave our 266 00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:42,320 listeners with? 267 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,320 What should they be pondering as they go about their day? 268 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,000 That's a good one. I'd probably ask them to consider this. What aspects of their 269 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:50,400 digital 270 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:54,720 lives do they feel are lacking control or transparency? Are there tools or services 271 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,180 they rely on that could be self-hosted? Giving them more ownership and peace of 272 00:11:59,180 --> 00:12:00,320 mind, you know? 273 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,010 That's a great challenge. It's about becoming more aware of the choices we make 274 00:12:04,010 --> 00:12:04,400 online 275 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,000 and exploring alternatives that align with our values. 276 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,520 Exactly. It's about taking back the reins of our digital lives. 277 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,760 Well said. And on that note, I think it's time to wrap up this deep dive into the 278 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,240 world of 279 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,670 2AAF and self-hosting. A huge thank you to our experts for sharing their incredible 280 00:12:20,670 --> 00:12:21,200 insights, 281 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,760 and to SafeServer for supporting this episode. If you're looking for a reliable and 282 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:26,480 secure hosting 283 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,320 partner to help you navigate the world of digital transformation, be sure to visit 284 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,120 www.safeserver.dd. 285 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,600 It's been a pleasure diving into this topic with you. 286 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,040 And to our listeners, keep exploring, keep questioning, and keep pushing the 287 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:39,440 boundaries 288 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,360 of what's possible in the digital realm. Until next time, happy diving.