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Hey everyone, welcome back for another Deep Dive.

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Today we're looking at Big Blue Button.

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Okay.

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It's virtual classroom software.

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They're making some pretty big claims

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about student success.

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Interesting.

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Yeah, we've got their marketing website

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and some tutorial overviews to dig into.

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Cool.

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So we can really see what's going on

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beyond the marketing hype.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And some of the stats about student outcomes

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with Big Blue Button, like compared

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to traditional classrooms,

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they are pretty interesting.

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Yeah, let's hear it.

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So let's unpack it all.

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Well, what really jumps out at me right away

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is how Big Blue Button positions itself.

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It's not just another Zoom or Teams,

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just trying to be everything to everyone.

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They are really laser-focused on teaching and learning.

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Yeah, you can tell that from their tagline.

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Purpose-built virtual classroom

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that empowers teachers to teach

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and learners to learn.

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Yeah, that's a mouthful.

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It is a mouthful, but it sets a specific tone.

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It does.

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How does that actually translate into the technology?

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Well, think about your typical video call software, right?

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It's great for meetings,

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but it's not designed with teaching in mind,

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like with pedagogy.

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Big blue button is different.

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It's built around this idea that online learning,

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it should be just as engaging and effective

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as in-person instruction.

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Interesting.

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Okay, so to do that, it seems like they've partnered

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with a ton of platforms that schools are already using.

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Learning management systems, LMSs.

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Like Moodle Canvas.

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They're not trying to replace those systems.

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They're trying to like weave themselves in.

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Yeah, that's a smart strategy.

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Right.

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Especially if they can pull it off seamlessly.

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Right, because teachers are already so busy.

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Oh yeah, totally overloaded.

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The last thing they need

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is another complicated system.

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Exactly.

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To learn. Yep.

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So speaking of things that teachers need,

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let's talk about the features.

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Okay, let's do it.

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They've got breakout rooms,

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a whiteboard screen sharing,

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lots of stuff that sounds pretty standard for video calls.

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Yeah, but I think the devil's in the details.

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Take breakout rooms for example.

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In Big Blue Button,

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teachers can actually preload activities

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directly into those breakout spaces.

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So instead of students just hanging out in smaller groups,

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they're guided through tasks

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that are designed for collaboration.

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That's much more structured.

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And they're saying,

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okay, go discuss this in groups

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and like hoping for the best.

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What about the whiteboard?

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Oh, the whiteboard.

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It's more.

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It's way more.

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Than just a digital doodle pad.

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Imagine you're teaching a lesson

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on like historical timelines.

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Big Blue Button smart slides,

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which are AI powered.

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They might suggest making that timeline interactive.

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Interesting.

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Students could drag and drop events

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or the system could automatically generate like quizzes

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based on the content.

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So it's like having a co-pilot.

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It is.

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Who understands good teaching practices.

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That's exactly what it's like.

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That's way more engaging than just staring at slides.

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And then they also have things like polls for instant feedback

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and shared notes for group projects.

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It seems like they're really trying to cover all the bases.

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They are trying to hit all the points.

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And then on top of all that,

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they're tracking all of it.

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With Big Blue Button's live analytics.

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So teachers can see.

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If students are engaged or not.

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You can see if someone is daydreaming

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about their weekend plans.

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Instead of paying attention.

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Exactly, you got it.

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Wow.

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That data can be really valuable.

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You know, for teachers to understand learning patterns.

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Right, right.

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And to adapt their teaching strategies.

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But it also raises some questions.

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It does.

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About how that information is used.

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Oh, for sure.

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So like, ethically?

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Yeah, like if Big Blue Button can tell

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exactly when a student zones out.

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Is that information gonna be used to help them

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or could it be used punitively?

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Ooh, that's a good point.

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You'd really wanna like explore that more

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before you adopted this in your classroom.

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That's a great point.

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Data can be really powerful.

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Yes.

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But it needs to be used responsibly.

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Okay, now there's one more thing we have to talk about.

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Okay, what's that?

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And it's a big one.

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Lay it on me.

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They shared a case study about GCSE Maths

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and English students using Big Blue Button.

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And the results are pretty remarkable.

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Oh, really?

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What happened?

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So these students were taking online classes

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using Big Blue Button.

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And they achieved a full grade point higher.

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Than students in traditional classrooms.

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That's significant.

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It is.

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It makes you wonder if this is a fluke

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or if Big Blue Button is really onto something here.

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And that kind of jump in scores

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is worth like really looking into.

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I mean, a fancy whiteboard

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can't magically make someone a math whiz.

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So it has to be more than just the tech, right?

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So what else could be a play here?

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Maybe Big Blue Button's features

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encourage better teaching practices.

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Even if it's unintentional.

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The structured breakout rooms,

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the interactive elements.

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It could be pushing teachers to be more engaging.

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And students to be more active learners.

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Or maybe it's something about

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the online environment itself.

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Maybe some students thrive

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when they can learn at their own pace.

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That's true.

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And rewind explanations as needed.

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Yeah, that's a good point.

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It's probably a combination of factors,

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but this case study really challenges that assumption

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that online learning is somehow inferior

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to in-person learning.

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It really makes you think about

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what effective learning looks like.

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It does.

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Both online and offline.

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What do you think?

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I think you're right.

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It makes you really rethink things.

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Interesting.

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Yeah, it really makes you think about

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the potential of online learning, you know?

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And it's not just about replicating a physical classroom

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in a digital space.

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It's about using the tech to create an environment

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that's actually tailored to students' needs.

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That's a cool idea.

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But it also makes me wonder about

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the practical side of things.

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Not every student has access to the same technology

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or a good internet connection.

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You're absolutely right.

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That is a crucial point.

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We can't ignore that.

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As much as we're excited about

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big blue buttons potential, you know?

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We can't forget about equity.

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Active whiteboards and AI powered slides are great.

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But they don't mean anything.

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If students can't access them.

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It's almost like we're talking about

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two different realities here.

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I know.

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Like this ideal world where everyone has the latest tech

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and super fast internet.

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And then the real world.

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Where that's just not the case for a lot of people.

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And that gap can actually widen.

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If we're not careful.

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Imagine a school where some kids can participate

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in these really cool interactive lessons.

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And others are stuck with choppy audio

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and limited functionality.

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It's like creating a digital divide.

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It is.

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Within the classroom.

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And then on top of all that,

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there's also the learning curve.

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Oh yeah, for sure.

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Even if the tech is there.

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Not everyone is comfortable using it.

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Think about teachers.

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Who might not be so tech savvy.

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Are they getting the support that they need.

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To really learn how to use all these features.

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integrate them into their lessons. And then what about the students who aren't

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comfortable

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navigating online environments? That's a good point. They might feel lost or

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intimidated,

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and that could totally impact their learning. It could. We can't just assume that

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everyone's

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going to adapt to new technology at the same pace. There needs to be a really

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thoughtful

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process that takes those differences into account. So it's not just about the tech

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itself?

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No, it's not. It's about the whole ecosystem. It's about the whole thing. The

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training,

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the support, addressing digital inequities. Absolutely. It's complex. It's really

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complex.

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Yeah. And it reminds us that technology, it's not a neutral force. It's not. It

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really is.

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The way that it's implemented. Right. Who has access to it? Exactly. And how it's

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can have a huge impact on people's lives. Absolutely. Speaking of impact, we talked

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Big Blue Button's live analytics feature. Oh, yeah. The one that lets teachers

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track student

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engagement in real time. Yeah, that seems. That seems like a powerful tool, but it

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also be invasive. It's a double edged sword. Yeah. On the one hand, you know, that

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can be really valuable for teachers. It can help them, you know, identify students

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are struggling, tailor their instruction and make sure that everyone is, you know,

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on the

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same page. Right. But on the other hand, it feels a little big brother ish. I know

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what

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you mean. Do students know what's being collected? Right. How it's being used and

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how it's being

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used? Yeah. Are there guidelines to protect their privacy? Those are excellent

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questions

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and they are ones that, you know, every school or organization using big blue

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to think about. Right. Transparency is really key here. Yeah. And it's not just

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about student

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privacy either. It's not. There's also data security. Oh, yeah. What measures are

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to protect this information from cyber attacks or breaches? That's another really

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crucial

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consideration. Yeah. We're talking about students' personal information, their

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academic records.

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Right. Potentially even like their learning styles and preferences. Wow. That data

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needs

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to be protected. Yeah. It's a big responsibility. It is a big responsibility. And

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it shouldn't

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be taken lightly. It shouldn't. We're talking about the future of education. We are.

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the stakes are really high. They are. And it's not just about, you know, protecting

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from harm. Right. It's also about fostering trust. If students feel like their data

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being misused or mishandled, it can erode their confidence in technology and in the

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whole learning process. That's a really good point. Trust is essential. It is. For

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any

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learning environment. Absolutely. Whether it's online or in person. For sure. And

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it's

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something that has to be built over time. It's not just about like checking boxes

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and having

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policies in place. It's about creating a culture of respect and transparency. So it

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like while Big Blue Button offers a lot of potential benefits, we need to approach

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with a critical eye. I think so. Ask those tough questions about equity and privacy

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data security. Exactly. And we need to make sure that the technology is being used

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responsibly.

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We do. I completely agree. And it's not just up to schools and educators to figure

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out. No, it's not. It's a conversation that needs to involve everyone. Parents,

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students,

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policymakers, the community. Wow. We all need to be a part of the solution. That's

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a powerful

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message. It is. Technology can be a really good thing for education. It can be. But

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it's

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up to us. Yeah. To make sure that it's used in a way that benefits everyone.

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Okay, so let's shift gears a little bit. Okay. And talk about some other ways that

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Button can be used. Okay. They talked about how Iowa Central Community College is

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it. Yeah. Not just in classrooms. Yeah. Professional development training sessions,

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virtual meetings.

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So the possibilities are pretty vast. It seems like they are. It makes me wonder if

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features that we've been talking about, the breakout rooms, the interactive whiteboard,

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the polls, if they could be valuable in other contexts. Oh, for sure. Totally.

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like corporate training, for example. Yeah. Instead of those, you know, boring

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you could have interactive sessions using big blue button. So employees could work

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in breakout rooms, contribute ideas on the whiteboard, participate in polls.

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It could be way more engaging. It's effective. Yeah. And it's not just about

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corporate training.

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No. What about online workshops? Yeah. Community meetings, virtual book clubs, like

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brainstorming

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sessions with colleagues in different time zones. Exactly. Doesn't seem so donking

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anymore.

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It doesn't. What about for remote teams? That's a good one. They could use big blue

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to collaborate on projects, share ideas and build relationships. Even if they're

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all over

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the world. It seems like big blue button could be a game changer. It really could.

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of all shapes and sizes. It highlights how tech can blur the lines between

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different

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parts of our lives. The features that make it good for online learning could be

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just

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as good for work, for collaboration and even social interaction. It's like learning

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isn't

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just confined to the classroom anymore. Exactly. It's becoming part of our everyday

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lives.

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It is. That's a trend we're going to see more and more of as technology keeps

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evolving.

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The opportunities for lifelong learning and collaboration are just going to keep

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expanding.

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It's exciting and a little bit scary. It is. At the same time. But like with any

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powerful

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tool. Right. It's up to us to use it wisely. And responsibly. And responsibly. That

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having those open and honest conversations about the benefits and the pitfalls. So

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like we've covered a lot of ground in this part of our deep dive. From equity and

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privacy

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to all the other ways that Big Blue Button can be used. It's clear that this tech

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has

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the potential to make a big impact. It does. We've talked a lot about the potential

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Big

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Blue Button and some of the things to watch out for. Yeah. We've covered a lot of

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ground.

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But at the end of the day, what does it all mean? Well, I think the main takeaway

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here

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is that Big Blue Button. It's more than just another video conferencing tool. Right.

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not just another Zoom. It's a platform that was designed for teaching and learning.

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From the ground up. Yeah. And it's pushing the boundaries of what online education

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can

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even be. I think that's what's so exciting about this. Yeah. It's not just about

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replacing

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textbooks with screens. No. It's about changing how we think about learning, how we

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connect

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to each other. Think about it for centuries. Yeah. The classroom has been a

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physical space.

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Right. A room with desks and a chalkboard. Exactly. But Big Blue Button is

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challenging

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that. Yeah. It's saying that the classroom can be anywhere. Right. Anytime. As long

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as

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you have the right tools and the right mindset. And that opens up so many

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possibilities. So

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many. Students in remote areas can access high quality education. Yeah. Professionals

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can collaborate with colleagues across continents. Learning can truly become a

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lifelong thing.

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It's a vision of the future that's pretty inspiring. It is. And maybe a little

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intimidating.

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Yeah. A little bit of both. Makes you wonder if we're like right on the edge of a

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huge

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shift in education. A paradigm shift. Yeah. Maybe we are. And Big Blue Button might

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just

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be the beginning. The tip of the iceberg. We're already seeing all this other tech

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emerging. Virtual reality, augmented reality, AI. All that stuff has the potential

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to transform

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learning even more. It does. It's pretty crazy to think about. It makes you wonder

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what new

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teaching methods will we come up with. Yeah. What new ways of collaborating will we

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figure

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out? And what will the role of the teacher even look like? That's a big question.

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Huge.

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Those are all things that we'll have to think about. As we go forward. And there

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are going

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to be challenges. Oh, yeah, for sure. We have to address those questions about

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equity and

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privacy and access. We do. And we have to make sure that we're using technology ethically

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and responsibly. We can't forget about the human element. Right at the end of the

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day,

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learning is a human thing. It is. It needs connection and empathy and shared

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purpose.

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Couldn't have said it better myself. So as we wrap up our deep dive into Big Blue

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I'll leave you with this thought. Okay. This platform is just one example of the

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really

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amazing innovations happening in education right now. There's so much going on. It's

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a reminder that we're living in a time of incredible opportunity. Yeah. Where the

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limits

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of learning are constantly being redefined. It's exciting. And it's up to all of us

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to

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explore those opportunities. Ask the tough questions. Push the boundaries. Create a

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future

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of learning that's equitable and engaging and empowering for everyone. That's what

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we're

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all working tools. Absolutely. Thank you for joining us on this journey. It's been

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great.

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It's been a pleasure diving into Big Blue Button with you. It has. And remember,

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the

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learning doesn't stop here. Nope. Keep exploring. Keep learning and keep pushing

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the boundaries.

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That's what it's all about. Thanks for listening.