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Welcome back to the deep dive.

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You know how this works.

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We take stacks of your sources and we turn them

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into bite-sized knowledge nuggets.

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Exactly.

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And today's topic is particularly interesting.

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We are diving into discourse.

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Right.

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All right, now we can get to the topic at hand,

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which is discourse.

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When I first saw the word discourse,

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I thought, OK, internet forums, message boards,

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probably a lot of arguing.

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But then I started looking through all the sources

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you sent in.

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Yeah.

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And it turns out it's so much more than that.

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So maybe we should start by defining

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what discourse actually is.

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Yeah, so their GitHub Read Me describes it

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as a platform for community discussion, free, open, simple.

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But it's used by over 20,000 communities.

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That simple part really stood out to me, though,

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because sometimes simple just means, like, lacking features

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or difficult to use.

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Like, what's the catch?

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I mean, it's simple in a way that makes it adaptable.

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It's open source, so anyone can see the code,

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understand how it works, contribute improvement.

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Because it's not simple as in basic.

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It's simple as in elegant.

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Got it.

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So we're talking more than just, like,

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a forum for arguing about the best

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way to make a grilled cheese, right?

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What are some examples of how discourse is actually

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being used out in the wild?

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So for example, the Alt-NBA program

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uses it for their online workshops.

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It really emphasizes that conversational aspect of it.

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And then you have Twitch, which has a massive developer

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community.

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They use it for their developer advocacy program.

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Interesting.

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So clearly, it can scale.

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It's adaptable.

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It's very adaptable.

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One phrase that kept popping up in these sources,

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though, was this idea of civilized discussion, which

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honestly feels a little ironic when

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we're talking about the internet.

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So is that just like a marketing gimmick?

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Or is there something more to it?

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I think it's more than a marketing gimmick, yeah.

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They're very much trying to combat the negativity we

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with online discussions.

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I'm intrigued.

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How do they actually do that?

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What's the secret sauce?

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Well, one key ingredient is, unlike a lot of other platforms

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where your comments disappear into the void after a while,

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discourse emphasizes unlimited conversation history.

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Everything is preserved.

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So you can't just like jump in, drop a hot take, and disappear.

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There's actually a record of what you said.

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It encourages users to reflect on past discussions.

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I like that.

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That creates a sense of accountability.

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Like your words have lasting impact.

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And it also adds context.

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Because sometimes online, you miss a lot of the nuance.

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Having the full history there helps you understand

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where people are coming from.

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You get a deeper understanding not just of the topic,

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but of the people discussing it as well.

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So it's not just a series of disconnected comments.

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You can actually see the evolution of ideas

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and the relationships between the people

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having those discussions.

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And they also have real-time chat features too.

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So it's not all just like super serious academic debate.

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You can have those quick back and forths as well.

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So there's a balance there.

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and the real-time chat.

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I'm sensing a theme here.

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Balance is key.

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Another thing you mentioned was portable data.

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What does that mean?

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If I leave a discourse community,

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I can take my posts and discussions with me.

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You own your content.

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It's not locked into that specific community.

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It's not trapped in that walled garden.

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That changes things.

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Yeah, it promotes responsibility.

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Because you know your words have lasting value.

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They're not just going to disappear

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if the platform disappears.

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Right, exactly.

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And to support all of this, they also

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provide a lot of community management tools

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that are built right into the platform.

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OK, so we've talked about individual responsibility.

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But how about from the community management side?

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What can they do to sort of help promote this kind of discussion

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on the platform?

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Right, well the platform being open source

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also means that anyone can download the code.

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You know, they can modify it, host their own instance.

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So we're not talking about just like tweaking themes

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or setting some basic rules.

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Like you can actually go in and change the code

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to fit your community's needs.

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It gives communities a lot of control

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over how they want to interact.

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It makes sense.

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If you have ownership over the platform,

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you're more likely to care about its success.

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You want to create a positive environment.

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Right, yeah.

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You're not just beholden to some faceless corporation

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to dictate the terms of your interaction.

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You're tending your own garden, so to speak.

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So we've got this foundation of individual responsibility,

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but then we've also got this element of community ownership.

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And that kind of ties back to civilized discussion.

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It's about cultivating a culture of respect.

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So besides having those tools, what else

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can community managers do?

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I'm picturing them like digital referees running around,

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blowing the whistle on bad behavior.

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But it's more about transparency and moderation.

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So they have the tools to clearly communicate guidelines

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to moderate discussions.

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So it's not just about shutting down bad behavior.

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It's about being transparent about,

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why certain things aren't acceptable.

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Explain the reasoning behind the rules.

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It's educational.

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It's educational.

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And the unlimited conversation history kind of plays

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into that as well, right?

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Because if someone breaks the rules,

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you can actually point back to a specific example.

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So it's not just, well, I don't like what you said.

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Well, you broke this specific rule,

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and here's the history of how that's

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been applied in the past.

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And it allows for learning and growth.

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They can understand why their actions were problematic

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and adjust their behavior.

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So it's less about punishment and more

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about guiding people to become better community members.

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Right, exactly.

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I like that.

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Does discourse have any other tools, though,

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to kind of help with that?

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So there is a built-in trust level system, for example.

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So as users participate, they contribute positively.

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They gain trust levels, which grants them more privileges.

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It's like a video game, but for discussion.

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You level up by being a good community member.

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That's pretty cool.

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It gamifies the experience a bit,

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encourages that positive behavior.

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And it helps identify those core members

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who can then help to shape the culture

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and guide the newcomers, right?

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It's really brilliant when you think about it,

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because you're creating this self-sustaining ecosystem.

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It goes back to community ownership.

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You know, the most engaged members become the leaders.

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And when you have members that are really invested

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in the community, they want it to succeed.

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So it's a win-win.

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Okay, I'm convinced this is way more than just a forum.

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It's like a whole philosophy, almost.

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A philosophy of community building.

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It's a toolkit for fostering thoughtful interaction.

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So this has all been very fascinating,

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but I'm sure some of our listeners out there are thinking,

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okay, but how do I actually get started with discourse?

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Where do I go from here?

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Well, the good news is it's pretty easy to get started.

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Their website has a really comprehensive installation guide

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that walks you through the entire process.

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So there's documentation to guide you.

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Very clear documentation.

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What if you're not, you know, a super technical person?

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Is it still accessible?

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It's very user-friendly.

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You don't need to be a coding expert or like a server management guru to get

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So you don't need to be a tech wizard to have a thriving community.

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Right.

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And they also have a really great community of users.

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So if you run into any issues, there's a ton of support out there.

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It's good to have that backup.

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And there's also managed hosting options.

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Oh, okay.

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So if you don't want to deal with the technical details yourself, you could just

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that.

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Just outsource it.

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That's cool.

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So you've got built-in support.

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You've got the option to outsource it if you need to.

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It's all about finding that solution that works best for you.

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Right.

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You know, my mind's already racing thinking about all the possibilities here.

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But before we get too carried away with our discourse dreams, I think it's time to

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a quick break.

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We'll be right back with more insights from our deep dive into the world of online

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communities.

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Welcome back to the deep dive.

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And a big thank you again to Safe Server, our sponsor, for supporting this episode.

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You can find them at www.dysafeserver.de.

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So before the break, we were talking about all the features that make discourse so

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user-friendly

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and accessible.

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But having a good platform is only half the battle, right?

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Like how do you actually build a thriving community?

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It's not like you just, you know, set it and forget it.

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It's more like building a house.

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Like the platform is the foundation, but you still need to furnish it, decorate it,

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it a place where people actually want to hang out.

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I love that analogy.

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So how do you create that kind of welcoming, engaging atmosphere on discourse?

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Like what are the essential ingredients?

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Well, one thing that really jumped out at me from the sources was this idea of

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fostering

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a sense of belonging.

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You know, people need to feel like they're part of something bigger, like their

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contributions

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are valued, their voices are heard.

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It's about creating that safe space, right?

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Where people feel comfortable sharing their ideas, even if they're maybe a little

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controversial.

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And that kind of ties back to this idea of civilized discussion.

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It's not just about being polite, it's about creating an environment where people

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themselves authentically and engage in, you know, respectful debate.

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Which can be a real challenge online, let's be honest.

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So how do you actually cultivate that kind of atmosphere in a digital space?

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Well, it starts with setting clear expectations from the very beginning.

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You know, community guidelines should be front and center, easy to understand, and

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framed

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in a positive way too.

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Right, so not, don't be a jerk, but more like, we value respectful communication

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you know, we encourage diverse perspectives.

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It sets the tone for the community.

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But guidelines are only as good as their enforcement, right?

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Because community managers come in.

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They're not just moderators, they're kind of like role models, right?

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They set the example, they hold people accountable.

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But it can't just be a top-down approach, right?

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Like, the community itself needs to be involved in shaping the culture.

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It's about empowering those members to take ownership of their space.

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Okay, but how does that actually work on a practical level?

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Well, for example, Discourse has tools that allow members to flag posts that

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violate the

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guidelines.

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So that legislators can review those flags and take appropriate action.

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So it's a collaborative process?

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It builds trust.

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Okay, so we've got clear guidelines, engaged community managers, empowered members.

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What's the final piece of the puzzle here?

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What makes a Discourse community really thrive?

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Content.

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A community is only as good as the conversations it sparks.

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Makes sense.

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Like, a beautiful platform is meaningless if there's nothing interesting being

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discussed.

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No, community managers need to be strategic about the content they're promoting.

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You know, what resonates with their audience?

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How can they encourage members to share their expertise?

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To create a buzz around upcoming discussions?

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It's not just about throwing up a forum and hoping for the best.

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It's about being proactive.

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Well, expert, this has been a fantastic deep dive.

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I've learned a lot.

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Any final words of wisdom for our listeners as they embark on their own Discourse

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journey?

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Sure.

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Just remember, building a community takes time.

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Don't expect overnight success.

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It's about cultivating relationships, building trust.

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It's a marathon, not a sprint.

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But the rewards are worth it, right?

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Oh, absolutely.

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When you create a thriving online community, you're not just building a website.

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You're building a network of support, a source of inspiration.

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You're building a platform for positive change.

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Beautiful.

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Well, listeners, I hope this deep dive into Discourse has inspired you to think

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differently

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about the power of online communities.

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