1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,400 All right, everyone, welcome back for another deep dive with us today. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,240 We're looking into something pretty interesting, I think. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,760 Yeah, this should be fun, especially for those of you who like to tinker and, um, 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,880 you know, like to know what's coming on with their tech. Absolutely. 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,440 We've got a great deep dive today, all about find my device. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,240 Ooh, that's a good one. 7 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:22,000 It is. And a big shout out to safe server for supporting this episode. 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,480 They're great. Yeah, they are actually, they can even help you, uh, 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,120 host this software yourself if you want. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's pretty cool. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,520 So if you want to find out more about that, you can go to www.safe server.de. 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,280 I'll have to check that out. Yeah. So find my device. 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,920 It's this open source project, right? Okay. 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,920 And essentially it aims to give you more control over your devices, 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,240 especially when it comes to like finding them, 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,160 if they get lost or, or managing them remotely. 16 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:52,080 Yeah, that's a big concern for a lot of people these days. It really is. 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,320 I mean, we've all been there, right? Oh yeah, absolutely. 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,280 Misplaced our phone or, uh, maybe even had a device stolen. 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,360 That's a horrible thing. It is. And you know, 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,360 we we tend to rely on those like default find my device features that come with 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,240 our phones, right? Right. Yeah. From Google or Apple or whoever. 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,960 You just kind of assume that's, that's what you got to use. Exactly. 23 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:16,000 But find my device. This is, this is kind of shaking things up a bit, right? 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,280 It's it's offering a different approach. Yeah. 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,880 And so we dug into their GitLab page and it looks like there's two main parts to 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,760 this. Okay. There's the find my device, Android app, 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,360 and then there's this whole other component, the find my device server. 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,940 Interesting. So you need both. Well, we'll, we'll get into that, but yeah, 29 00:01:32,940 --> 00:01:36,080 it seems like they work together. Okay, cool. But before we get too far, 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,360 I think it's important to really highlight what find my device is all about and 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,960 why it's, you know, why it's catching people's attention. All right. 32 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:46,200 Lay it on me. So in a nutshell, 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,760 it's all about taking control of your data and your device security. Okay. 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,160 So that's where the, the open source part comes in. Yeah, exactly. 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,640 We'll talk more about that in a bit, but it's basically offering an alternative 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,800 to those big tech solutions that, you know, we sometimes just blindly trust. 37 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,480 Yeah. You don't always know where your data is going, do you? Exactly. 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,160 And that can be a little unnerving, right? Sure. So with find my device, 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,000 you have more transparency, you know, what's happening with your information. 40 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,280 So it's kind of like empowering the user to take control of their own privacy. 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,600 Precisely. I like that. Yeah. And it seems like they've really thought about, 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,720 you know, making it accessible to different types of users. Oh, how so? 43 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,520 So for example, 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,800 you can actually connect to your device and manage it in a few different ways. 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,960 Interesting. You can use SMS, good old fashioned text messaging. Oh wow. 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,480 Keeping it simple. Exactly. And then you can also use instant messengers, 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,200 if you prefer. Okay. Or if you're a bit more tech savvy, 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,600 you can use their web interface, which I'm guessing gives you more, 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,040 more options and features. Right, right. 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,880 So there's a range of options depending on, on your comfort level. Absolutely. 51 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,960 So whether you're a tech whiz or just starting out, 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,880 there's a way for you to use find my device. That's right. 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,640 It makes it accessible for everybody. Yeah. 54 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:02,320 So no matter which method you choose, 55 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:07,600 the core function is the same to locate your device and you know, 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,680 potentially control it remotely if needed. Right, right. So if you lose your phone, 57 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,180 you can, you can track it down, maybe lock it down. 58 00:03:14,180 --> 00:03:16,920 So nobody can access your data. Exactly. And you know, 59 00:03:16,940 --> 00:03:20,080 wipe the data if you think it's, it's really gone for good. Oh, that's important. 60 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Yeah, it is. It's a great way to protect your sensitive information. Definitely. 61 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,640 Now let's dive into this open source aspect a little more. Right. Yeah. 62 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:31,360 I'm curious about that because this is really a key differentiator for find my 63 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,720 device. What does it mean in practice for, 64 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,720 for someone using this software? 65 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,640 So open source essentially means that the code, 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,280 the actual instructions that make the software run are publicly available. 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,840 So anyone can can see it. Yep. Anyone can look at it, examine it, 68 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,560 even modify it if they have the skills. Oh wow. That's pretty transparent. 69 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,320 It is. And that's a big part of the appeal, right? Yeah. 70 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,840 So you're not just trusting a company blindly. 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,880 You can actually see what's going on behind the scenes. Exactly. 72 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,360 And it also means that there's a whole community of developers who can contribute 73 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,040 to the project. Oh, so it's constantly being improved and, and updated. 74 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,240 That's the idea. Yeah. 75 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,960 It's like a collaborative effort to make the software as secure and as feature 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,160 rich as possible. That's pretty cool. I like that community aspect. Yeah. 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,640 And that transparency also has security implications. So, well, 78 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,320 because the code is open for anyone to see, 79 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,760 it means more people can scrutinize it, look for vulnerabilities and report them. 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,480 Right. So it's like having a whole army of security experts looking out for you 81 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,840 in a way. Yeah. 82 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:38,240 And that can be a lot more effective than just relying on one company's internal 83 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:43,000 security team. Makes sense. So it's like a crowd sourced approach to security, 84 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,320 which can be really powerful. Yeah. I can see the appeal there. 85 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,280 Yeah. We've talked a lot about the app, but what about this find my device server? 86 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:52,280 Right. That sounds, that sounds interesting. 87 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:55,400 It is. And it might seem a little daunting at first, 88 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,600 but it's actually pretty cool. So what, what is it exactly? 89 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,600 So the server is essentially the brains of the operation. Right. 90 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,680 It's the central hub that allows the app on your phone to communicate with the 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,640 device you're trying to find or control. Okay. So it's like the, the middle man. 92 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,120 Yeah. You could think of it that way. 93 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:18,120 It sits there listening for commands from your phone and then relays those 94 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,760 commands to your target device. 95 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,560 So like if you're trying to track the location of your, your lost tablet, 96 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,560 exactly. You open the app on your phone, tell it to find your tablet. 97 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,080 That command goes to the server and the server tells the tablet to report its 98 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,840 location. Ah, I see. 99 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:37,840 So the server is what makes all those remote control features possible. 100 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:41,920 Precisely. Things like tracking the device location, locking it down, 101 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,800 wiping the data, all those commands go through the server. 102 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,480 So you need the server for those features to work. Yeah. 103 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,760 It's an essential component. Okay. So, so how does this server work? Like, 104 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,360 where is it? Well, that's where things get even more interesting. Oh, 105 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,680 tell me more. You can actually host the server yourself. Wait, what? 106 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,560 Like on my own computer? Exactly. 107 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,640 You can set it up on a computer in your home or you can rent server space from a 108 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:05,680 provider. Wow. 109 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,320 So it's like having your own little find my device command center right there in 110 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,840 your house. That's the idea. 111 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:14,420 And that gives you complete control over your data. Right. 112 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:17,640 So instead of sending your data to Google or Apple or whoever, 113 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,040 it stays within your own network. Exactly. Nobody else has access to it. 114 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,240 It's all under your control. 115 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,560 That's pretty appealing from a privacy standpoint. It is. 116 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,600 And for a lot of people, that's a major selling point. Yeah. I can see why. 117 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,880 Of course. Setting up a server does require some technical know-how. Yeah. 118 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,760 That might be a bit daunting for some people. It can be, 119 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,520 but there are tons of resources available online to help you. Oh, good. 120 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,040 There are guides, tutorials, even communities of people who can offer support. 121 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,840 Okay. So it's not, not totally out of reach for someone who's, 122 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:54,520 who's not a tech expert. No, not at all. And, you know, 123 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,560 it's a great way to learn more about how servers work and gain some valuable 124 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,380 skills. 125 00:06:59,380 --> 00:07:04,080 And potentially have a lot more control over your, your data and your privacy. 126 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,920 Exactly. So this whole find my device project, 127 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,920 it really seems to offer a different way of thinking about device management. 128 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:11,500 It does. 129 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:15,600 And it really taps into that growing desire for more 130 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,120 transparency and control over our digital lives. Yeah. 131 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,160 People are becoming a lot more aware of these issues. They are. 132 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,040 And I think solutions like find my device are going to become increasingly 133 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,000 popular. Yeah. 134 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,720 It'll be interesting to see where this goes in the future. Absolutely. 135 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,720 You know, it makes you wonder, 136 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,880 could open source solutions like this become the new standard? 137 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,600 It's a possibility for sure. I mean, the benefits are pretty compelling. 138 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,200 They are. 139 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,720 So if you're intrigued by this and you want to learn more or even try setting up 140 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,480 your own find my device server, I highly recommend checking out save server. 141 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,440 They can help with that. 142 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,880 Yeah. They're experts in digital transformation and they even offer hosting 143 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,320 solutions so they can help you get your server up and running. Oh wow. That's, 144 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,760 that's fantastic. It is. 145 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,360 And you can find out more about them at www dot safe server dot de. 146 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,320 All right. I'll make a note of that. Yeah. And to all of you listening, 147 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,840 thanks for joining us on this deep dive and to find my device. You know, 148 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,760 it's an exciting project and it's definitely worth exploring further. 149 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,920 If you're looking for a more private and user centric way to manage your 150 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,800 devices. It's been a fascinating discussion. It have. And until next time, 151 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,600 keep exploring and stay curious. See ya. Tarta.