1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 Welcome back everybody to another deep dive today. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,260 We're going to be taking a look at GitLab and for this one, 3 00:00:05,260 --> 00:00:07,480 we're going to have a little help from our friends at safe server. 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:12,660 They know a thing or two about digital transformation and hosting software just 5 00:00:12,660 --> 00:00:14,920 like GitLab. You can check them out at www.safeserver.dde. 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:22,400 Now you might be thinking of GitLab is just that place where you store your code, 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,840 but the stuff that we've been looking at suggests that they're aiming for 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,040 something way, way bigger. Yeah, a lot bigger. Yeah. 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,480 I think 80 times faster bills AI just sprinkled all over the place and a single 10 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:35,720 platform for like your entire software development process. 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,800 That sounds pretty ambitious, right? It is, it is. And you know, 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,620 one of the things that's really interesting is how GitLab is positioning themselves. 13 00:00:41,620 --> 00:00:45,760 They're calling themselves the most comprehensive AI powered dev sec ops 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,000 platform. So they're really kind of like hammering home that message. Yeah. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,240 And the AI aspect definitely jumps out at you. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,920 It's like they're trying to weave it into like every single part of software 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,400 development and even say that it helps them ship secure software faster. 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,540 And it's not just them talking, you know, 19 00:01:00,540 --> 00:01:05,240 they were recognized as a leader in Gartner's magic quadrant for both AI code 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,680 assistance and DevOps platforms. Yeah. 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,840 They have a lot of serious industry accolades, 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,280 but let's break this down a little bit. 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,320 What does all this really mean for someone who maybe isn't, you know, 24 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:19,200 knee deep in the software world every single day? Yeah. Right. 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,240 So let's start with like the term dev sec ops. 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,680 That sounds a little bit like someone just made up a word. 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,920 It does sound like a made up word, but actually it's a pretty important concept. 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,080 It's basically, you know, you've got your development team, 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,080 your security team and your operations team, 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,000 and it's bringing all those teams together under one roof. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,240 They're working together through that whole process of building software. 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,960 So it's really about breaking down those traditional silos. 33 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:45,720 So instead of having all these different teams working totally separate from 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,680 each other, it's like a more collaborative approach. 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,080 Exactly. Yeah, exactly. 36 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,240 And that's where the idea of like a single platform comes and GitLab is 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,760 basically saying, Hey, wouldn't it be great if you could manage, you know, 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,800 all your code, your testing, security deployment, all that stuff, all in one place. 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,960 I mean, I guess that does sound appealing from like a simplicity standpoint, 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,280 but like realistically, is that even possible? 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,200 Well, that's what we're here to try to explore. GitLab certainly thinks. 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,320 So they're touting all these benefits, like, you know, increased automation, 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,320 you know, being more productive, tighter security, more flexibility. 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,280 And that's all because you're not, you know, constantly switching between, 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,840 you know, five, six, seven different tools. Okay. I mean, that makes sense, 46 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,560 but I'm still a little bit stuck on like how bold those claims that they're 47 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,520 making are, especially that 80 times faster build figure. 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Like what does that actually look like in practice? 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,160 Well, they have some pretty compelling case studies that back up that figure, 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,200 you know, like Lockheed Martin, you know, the big aerospace giant, 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,120 they reported an 80 times speed increase in their builds and then a 90% reduction 52 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,120 in system maintenance time after they started using GitLab. 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,360 80 times faster. 54 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,280 So I'm picturing like a developer goes to grab a cup of coffee and by the time 55 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,880 they come back, their code's all built and ready to go. 56 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:55,680 Pretty much. 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:55,920 Yeah. 58 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:59,680 It frees up developers to focus on the more creative and complex parts of their 59 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,800 work instead of getting bogged down in like those tedious tasks. 60 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,680 And it's not even just Speed Iron Mountain, the data storage and management company. 61 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,160 They saw huge cost savings, like $150,000 every year. 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,160 And they shaved off like 20 hours from their onboarding time for each project. 63 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:14,880 Okay. 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,920 Now we're talking about like real impact. 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,840 This is some serious numbers, but let's be real for a second. 66 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,200 This is all coming straight from, you know, their marketing material. 67 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,440 So it's probably safe to say that they're painting a pretty rosy picture, right? 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:26,320 Yeah, of course. 69 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,280 Every company wants to, you know, highlight their successes. 70 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,680 It's always smart to kind of approach these claims with, you know, a 71 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,920 healthy dose of skepticism. 72 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Those case studies are impressive, but you know, they're just snapshots. 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:40,440 They're not the whole picture. 74 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Right. 75 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:41,440 Exactly. 76 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,480 So what are some questions that we should be asking to kind of dig a little deeper? 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,640 You know, what's lurking beneath the surface here? 78 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,120 Well, for starters, you know, how does GitLab's pricing scale, you know, can 79 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,520 it handle the complexities of like a really large organization with, you 80 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,240 know, thousands of developers? 81 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,280 And then what about the potential for vendor lock-in, you know, where you 82 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,720 become so reliant on one company's platform that switching to something 83 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,760 else is a huge headache. 84 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,320 Well, getting trapped in a tech ecosystem is never ideal, but wouldn't 85 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,280 the benefits of a unified platform outweigh that risk if it actually like 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,000 delivers on all of its promises? 87 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,200 Yeah, that's a valid point. 88 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,160 It's all about weighing the pros and cons. 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,120 And speaking of weighing things, we haven't even talked about the AI 90 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,880 features that GitLab keeps highlighting. 91 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,480 Is that just a buzzword or is there some real substance there? 92 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,560 Yeah, the AI angle feels like a little bit of a mystery box, you know, what's 93 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,880 actually going on under the hood. 94 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Well, their AI suite is called GitLab Duo, and it's supposed to help developers 95 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,440 through that entire development life cycle. 96 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,880 It's kind of like a co-pilot for your code. 97 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,200 Okay. 98 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,720 So what does that co-pilot actually do? 99 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,240 Like give me some concrete examples. 100 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,360 So imagine you're writing code and all of a sudden GitLab Duo suggests the next 101 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,680 line that you're about to type. 102 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,120 It's like an auto complete, but for programming, it can save you a ton of time 103 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,560 and it can even catch potential errors before they become problems. 104 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,040 And then they also have AI powered security scanning tools that can identify 105 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,440 vulnerabilities early on. 106 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,600 So it's not just about speed. 107 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,680 It's about writing cleaner, more secure code right for the beginning. 108 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,560 That's pretty impressive. 109 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:09,320 Exactly. 110 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,000 And that's where the real value of AI and DevSecOps comes in. 111 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,080 It's all about intelligent automation, using AI to not just speed things up, 112 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,720 but also to make the software, you know, better and safer. 113 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,600 That makes sense. 114 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,720 But call me old fashioned. 115 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,920 Isn't there a risk of becoming too reliant on AI? 116 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,560 What if it misses something crucial or makes a mistake? 117 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,480 Yeah, you're right to be cautious. 118 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,240 AI is a powerful tool, but it's not a replacement for human expertise. 119 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,360 You know, developers still need to understand how the AI works, you know, 120 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,400 its limitations and how to interpret its results. 121 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,280 It's more a partnership than a takeover. 122 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:46,920 So it's more about AI augmenting human capabilities, not replacing them entirely. 123 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,600 It's like a safety net for developers, helping them catch things they might've 124 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:50,920 missed. 125 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,600 Exactly. 126 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,930 It's humans and AI working together to build better software faster and more 127 00:05:55,930 --> 00:05:56,600 securely. 128 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,320 But we shouldn't get carried away with all the hype. 129 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,080 You know, we need to think about the potential downsides of 130 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,120 relying on a platform like GitLab. 131 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:04,560 Okay. 132 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,200 So let's play devil's advocate for a second. 133 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,440 What are some of those potential pitfalls? 134 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,280 Well, one challenge could be complexity. 135 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,080 You know, GitLab is incredibly feature rich, which can be a little overwhelming, 136 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,720 especially for people who are new to it. 137 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,920 It's having a Swiss army knife with a hundred different blades. 138 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,480 You might not even know where to start. 139 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:22,840 Yeah. 140 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:25,160 Too many options can definitely be paralyzing. 141 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,480 And I imagine that steep learning curve could lead to some frustration and 142 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,760 potentially even errors if people aren't properly trained. 143 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,320 Exactly. 144 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,800 And with that much power at your fingertips, there's more room for things to 145 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,160 go wrong if you're not careful. 146 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,720 It's really crucial to have a solid understanding of the platform before you 147 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,080 just dive in head first. 148 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,840 So robust training and support are essential. 149 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:49,400 You don't want to hand someone like a superpower tool without, you know, 150 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,200 teaching them how to use it safely and effectively. 151 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,000 Absolutely. 152 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,520 And that's another thing to consider the level of support that you need might 153 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,200 depend on your organization's size and budget. 154 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,160 So it's not a one size fits all solution. 155 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,080 Companies really need to carefully assess their needs and resources before they 156 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,320 jump in, but stepping back for a second, GitLab seems to have this grand vision 157 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,680 that goes way beyond just being a code repository. 158 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,200 They want to be like that central hub for everything related to software 159 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:15,600 development. 160 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,280 Yeah. 161 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,200 And that vision is driving a lot of innovation in the DevSecOps space or pushing 162 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,840 boundaries and forcing other companies to step up their game. 163 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,440 It's a really exciting time to be a software developer. 164 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,280 It sounds like the software development landscape is evolving at like lightning 165 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,880 speed, but let's say a company truly embraces GitLab and they achieve all those 166 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,280 outcomes that GitLab claims. 167 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,040 What kind of impact could that have on their industry or even the wider tech world? 168 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Now, that's a really fascinating question. 169 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:46,000 Imagine a world where software is developed at an incredible case with minimal 170 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,640 errors 171 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,960 and robust security that's built in from the ground up. 172 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:55,400 It could completely revolutionize industries from healthcare to finance to 173 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,320 transportation. 174 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,520 We're talking about a potential paradigm shift. 175 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,880 It's almost mind boggling to think about. 176 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:01,600 It is, it is. 177 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,960 And that's what makes this whole space so captivating. 178 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,720 You know, we're witnessing this convergence of all these really powerful trends. 179 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,480 You know, you have cloud computing, AI automation and a shift toward more 180 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,320 collaborative development practices. 181 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,400 It seems like all the pieces are falling into place for like a major 182 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,600 transformation in how software is built and delivered and GitLab is positioning 183 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,480 itself to be at the forefront of this whole revolution. 184 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,800 It's like we're standing right on the edge of like a whole new era of software 185 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,480 development and GitLab is just, you know, going all in on it. 186 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,040 They are. 187 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,280 And you know, whether or not they reach like all of those ambitious goals, 188 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,670 they're definitely shaking things up and making the whole industry, you know, step 189 00:08:37,670 --> 00:08:38,320 up their game. 190 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,040 So we've covered a lot of ground today. 191 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:45,160 We've explored all those claims that GitLab is making, dissected all the jargon, 192 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:50,600 and we've considered both the potential benefits and, you know, all the risks. 193 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,920 Yeah, we've seen how they're trying to be that, you know, one stop shop for 194 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:55,360 software 195 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,680 development using AI and automation to hopefully streamline that entire process. 196 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,160 But as with any new technology, you know, there are some valid concerns. 197 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,160 You know, the complexity of it, all the reliance on it and the potential downsides 198 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,120 of, you know, putting all your eggs in one basket. 199 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Exactly. It's super important to approach these new advancements, you know, with a 200 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,640 critical eye and really carefully evaluate whether a platform like GitLab is the 201 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,320 right fit, you know, for your specific needs and goals. 202 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,800 Well said. So to our listeners out there, we've given you a little glimpse into the 203 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,840 world of GitLab. And now we want to hear from you. 204 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,520 What are your thoughts? What parts really resonated with you? 205 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,240 Yeah. 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