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That feeling, you know, where it feels a bit overwhelming and you know there's

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a solution out there, but just digging through all the options is well, it's a

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Today, we're embarking on a deep dive into a really interesting open source project

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We're talking about Khan.

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Now, if you're familiar with tools like Trello, maybe think of Khan as the open

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source Trello

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We'll look into what Khan is, how it works, and why it might be exactly what you've

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All right.

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So we've introduced Khan as an open-sourced Trello alternative.

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Let's unpack that a bit.

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What exactly does that mean for someone who might just be starting their journey

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project management tools, or is maybe just curious about what open source even

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in practice?

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Well, at its heart, Khan is a powerful but actually surprisingly flexible Kanban

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application.

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Now, that term Kanban might sound a bit technical, but it's actually a brilliant

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visual system

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for managing work.

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Just imagine a whiteboard with sticky notes.

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You typically have columns like to-do, doing, and done, and you move your sticky

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those columns as you make progress.

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Kan basically takes that really simple intuitive concept and brings it into the

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It's designed to help you organize work, track progress, and deliver results all in

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visual place.

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The idea is to make your workflow so intuitive you can see exactly where everything

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just at a glance.

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like this.

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It means the underlying code, kind of like the software's blueprint, is freely

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Anyone can view it, modify it, and even contribute back to it.

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Think of it like this.

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If proprietary software is maybe a black box, you just use what's inside, right?

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Open source is more like a transparent workshop.

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You can see how it's built.

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You can suggest improvements or even customize it for your own specific needs.

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This brings huge benefits like transparency, obviously a strong community

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development, and often way more control for you, the user.

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It also operates under a license called AGPL 3.0.

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Now for the everyday user, this license is a bit like a community garden agreement.

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If you use seeds from the garden to grow something fantastic, the license

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encourages you to share

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those new, improved seeds back with the community.

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It helps ensure the software keeps getting better, benefiting everyone.

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That makes a lot of sense.

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So it's a very visual way to manage tasks, right?

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It sounds like a pretty powerful combination.

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But I mean, in a world flooded with task managers, what's Ken's real superpower?

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What common frustrations does it genuinely eliminate for someone feeling maybe

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That's a great question because, yeah, it's not just about having another place to

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Think about that feeling when your to-do list is just an endless scroll, right?

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Its superpower, I'd say, is turning a static list into a living, breathing workflow.

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for feedback or maybe task B is ready for review by the design team.

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You can instantly see where the bottlenecks are, where you need to focus your

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or what's actually ready for the next step.

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You can just drag and drop cards to move them through your workflow.

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You can invite team members to collaborate seamlessly.

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In general, just get more done without feeling overwhelmed by that endless list.

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It truly is about making simple visual task management that just, well, works for

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people and real projects.

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That instant clarity, yeah, that sounds incredibly valuable.

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Of course, a project management tool needs more than just a basic board.

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It needs solid features to be a compelling alternative, right, especially compared

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What stands out to you in Can's feature set that makes it a true contender?

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Can has definitely thought about the essentials for effective collaboration and

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organization.

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For instance, board visibility is critical.

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It lets you control exactly who can view and edit your boards.

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Imagine you have a board for sensitive HR tasks.

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You certainly wouldn't want the entire company seeing that.

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This granular control is really important to give you peace of mind.

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in and collaborating smoothly.

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And as projects grow and tasks multiply, labels and filters become your best

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friends.

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These allow for incredibly quick organization and help you find specific cards fast

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when there's loads of information.

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Vital for bigger projects.

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And for discussions, comments let you talk right there on the cards themselves.

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This keeps all communication contextually noted.

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You're discussing the task on the task, not digging through emails or chats.

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Right, no more searching for that one email thread.

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It tracks all card changes with a detailed history.

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It's like having a perfect project diary, always up to date.

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It provides accountability and a clear audit trail what happened when, who did it.

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Super helpful for looking back or figuring out issues.

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That detailed activity log, yeah, that sounds fantastic for accountability and just

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how things are moving.

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But one feature that immediately jumped out at me from the material, especially for

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listeners who might be using Trello already, is Trello imports.

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For someone thinking about switching, that sounds incredibly practical.

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How well does that actually work?

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Are there any catches?

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Oh, it's huge.

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It truly is a game changer for anyone looking to transition.

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The ability to easily import your existing Trello boards means you can pretty much

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You don't lose your history, you don't have to manually recreate everything.

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Imagine having, say, 20 Trello boards for different clients or projects, the

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of rebuilding all that in a new tool.

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It's a massive barrier.

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Yeah, that would stop me right there.

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CAN aims to eliminate that pain point.

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It tries to make the transition as smooth as possible, bringing over your cards,

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lists,

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even some attachments.

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It really removes a significant hurdle to just trying it out.

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As for caveats, well, like with any import, it's always good practice to just

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your imported boards afterwards, make sure everything landed exactly as you

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expected.

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But for most users, it seems to be a pretty seamless experience.

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That's a huge relief, I bet, for anyone considering a move.

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Really lowers the friction.

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And looking ahead, what's on the roadmap for CAN?

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What can users expect in the future as the project keeps developing?

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They've announced that templates are coming soon.

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That'll be a huge time saver.

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You'll be able to create and reuse predefined board structures for common workflows,

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say, onboarding new clients or managing an editorial calendar.

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Oh, nice.

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No more setting up the same columns over and over.

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Precisely.

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That will allow users to connect CAN with other tools they use daily, you know,

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streamlining workflows and maybe centralizing their work even more.

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It's a strong sign of a project that's listening to users and committed to

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improvement.

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So we've talked about what CAN is and why it's a compelling option.

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Good stuff.

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But for many people, the biggest question is often, OK, how do I actually get this?

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And that's where things can sometimes feel a bit intimidating, maybe, especially

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these two different paths for getting started.

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How does the beginner navigate that?

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You're right.

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There are two main paths.

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But CAN is actually made both quite accessible, which is great.

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The simplest way to jump in, especially if you're an individual, is to get started

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That just means CAN hosts the software for you.

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It's truly a frictionless entry point.

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You sign up and you're in.

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That's it.

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And it's free forever for individuals.

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That includes unlimited boards, lists, cards, comments, and that full activity log

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for one

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You don't even need a credit card to get started, so you can try it out with

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Free forever for individuals.

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That's pretty generous.

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Yeah, it really is.

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And then if you want to use it with a team, you can upgrade to a team plan.

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It's $8 per user per month currently.

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That unlocks features like adding Workspace members and having admin roles.

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So yeah, the cloud option is definitely the easiest route for most users who just

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That sounds incredibly straightforward for most people, a really quick way to just

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using it.

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But then there's the self-host option.

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Now, this often sounds complex, maybe a bit daunting, especially if you're a

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Why would someone choose this path and how accessible is it really?

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or maybe individuals who need complete control over their data, perhaps for

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or compliance, or they just want to run the software on their own servers, their

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own infrastructure,

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maybe with a custom domain name.

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Like if you're a small business handling sensitive client info.

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if you're comfortable with some basic command line instructions.

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Docker Compose.

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Okay, that might already scare some beginners off.

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I know, but think of Docker Compose as like a really smart helper.

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It bundles up all of the different software pieces.

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CAN needs like its main engine and its database, its memory banks, if you will, and

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then sets

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them all up perfectly with just one command.

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You don't need to worry about installing each individual piece.

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It automates that complex setup.

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Here's basically how simple it can be, even for a beginner, to get it running.

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First, you create a simple text file.

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It's called Docker-compose.emo.

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You just paste in a specific configuration, a few lines of code that they provide

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in the CAN documentation.

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Okay, copy and paste.

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I can do that.

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Right.

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Second, you open your command line or terminal, go to where you saved that file,

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and you run

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just one command, Docker-compose up EOD.

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That's literally it.

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That command tells Docker-compose to start the application in the background,

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setting

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up everything, including its database, which is where CAN stores all your tasks and

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boards.

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And then step three, you just open your web browser and go to http.localhost.300.

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And CAN should be running right there on your own machine.

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Wait, really?

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Just create a file, run one command, and open a webpage?

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Pretty much, for the basic setup.

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And managing it is simple, too, commands like docker-compose-downstopit, docker-compose-logs-fucel,

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you see what's happening behind the scenes, docker-compose-restart, restarts it.

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Simple stuff.

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Now, it is important for beginners to know this docker-compose setup is a minimal

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example.

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It's perfect for just getting it up and running quickly to try it out.

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If you want features like email notifications or logging in with Google or GitHub

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or enabling

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file uploads, you'd need to configure some additional settings.

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It's usually done in another little settings file, often called a .env file.

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Think of it like flipping some extra switches or typing in some preferences.

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But the core setup to just get it running and start using Canna immediately remains

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remarkably straightforward.

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Okay.

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That genuinely demystifies self-hosting quite a bit.

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Knowing those simple steps makes it seem far less daunting than the term self-hosting

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initially

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suggests.

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It also suggests that even if you start with the cloud option, maybe moving to self-hosting

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later isn't some insurmountable mountain if your needs change.

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It's great to see that flexibility.

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So beyond the tech itself, an open source project really thrives on its community,

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right?

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The people behind it.

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What does the community look like for Can?

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Is it an active, vibrant space?

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Well, it's actually pretty impressive to see how active and vibrant the community

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is

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for Can.

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That's usually a good sign for an open source project's health.

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It's actively developed.

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On GitHub, which is where the code lives, it has 3,000 stars and about 114 forks.

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That indicates a significant level of interest and engagement from developers

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around the

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world.

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It's written mainly in TypeScript, which is a modern language, suggesting it's

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built

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with maintainable code.

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And importantly, they openly welcome contributions.

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They encourage users to read their contribution guidelines.

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This means users aren't just consumers of the software.

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They can actually help shape its future.

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They can propose features, fix bugs, maybe even contribute entirely new functionalities.

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It fosters this sense of ownership and collaboration that you just don't typically

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get with closed

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source proprietary software.

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That's a fantastic point about user involvement.

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It feels more like a partnership.

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And for those who might need help or just want to connect with other users or the

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core

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developers directly, what are the channels?

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How does someone get support if they run into a smag or just want to discuss ideas?

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Well, for direct support or to get in touch with the core team, they provide an

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email

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address, Henry, at can.bn.

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But maybe a bigger benefit of the open source community is connecting with other

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users and

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the developers more informally.

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You can join their Discord server.

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Discord is a really common hub for open source projects these days.

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This direct access to the core developers and also other experienced users is a

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huge

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advantage.

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You get quick feedback, help solve problems, or just share tips and tricks with a

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community

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that's just as invested in the tool as you might become.

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It tends to be a very supportive environment.

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Okay, so support is definitely there, both formally and through the community.

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Good to know.

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So, wrapping things up then, what does this all mean for you, the listener?

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We've taken a deep dive into CAN, this open source Trello alternative.

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We've looked at how it can bring structure and clarity to your projects with its

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visual

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approach and some pretty powerful features.

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And we've walked you through the clear paths to actually get started, whether you

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prefer

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that frictionless simplicity of the cloud or maybe the control and customization

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that

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comes with self-hosting.

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Yeah, and Ming, this raises an interesting question to ponder.

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In worlds where so many of our digital tools are proprietary closed source, with

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our data

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often stored on someone else's servers under terms we might not fully understand,

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how might

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embracing an open source alternative like CAN potentially change your perspective?

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Your perspective on data ownership, on customization, on community involvement in

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the software you

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rely on every single day.

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What new possibilities does having that level of control and transparency actually

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open

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up?

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For your personal projects maybe, or even for your team's workflow in the long run.

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It's certainly something to consider.

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Definitely something to mull over as you organize your next big idea, perhaps even

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with CAN.

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Thank you so much for joining us on this deep dive.

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We truly hope it's given you some valuable nuggets of knowledge to help you make

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informed

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decisions.

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