1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,940 Have you ever noticed how hard it can be to like get everyone to agree on, 2 00:00:03,940 --> 00:00:09,020 you know, stuff, especially in groups, like whether it's a club, a company 3 00:00:09,020 --> 00:00:12,060 board, or even just like deciding where to eat. 4 00:00:12,060 --> 00:00:12,600 Yeah. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:13,020 Yeah. 6 00:00:13,020 --> 00:00:16,060 I mean, sometimes even deciding on coffee can be a huge ordeal. 7 00:00:16,060 --> 00:00:16,860 It's true. 8 00:00:16,860 --> 00:00:20,260 Collaborative decision-making can feel like a real struggle sometimes. 9 00:00:20,260 --> 00:00:23,100 And that's actually what we're diving into today. 10 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:25,620 How to make those group decisions a whole lot easier. 11 00:00:25,620 --> 00:00:26,140 Okay. 12 00:00:26,140 --> 00:00:26,780 Sounds good. 13 00:00:26,940 --> 00:00:32,740 But first, a quick shout out to Safe Server, that's www.duchesafeserver.de. 14 00:00:32,740 --> 00:00:33,380 Okay. 15 00:00:33,380 --> 00:00:37,540 They're the ones who make this deep dive possible by hosting the software we're 16 00:00:37,540 --> 00:00:41,020 discussing and supporting all kinds of digital transformations. 17 00:00:41,020 --> 00:00:42,260 Oh, very cool. 18 00:00:42,260 --> 00:00:45,580 If you're looking for support in your own digital journey, definitely check them 19 00:00:45,580 --> 00:00:45,780 out. 20 00:00:45,780 --> 00:00:46,660 I'll have to take a look. 21 00:00:46,660 --> 00:00:48,820 So today we're focusing on a tool called Lumio. 22 00:00:48,820 --> 00:00:49,980 Lumio. 23 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:50,460 Okay. 24 00:00:50,460 --> 00:00:51,060 You heard of it? 25 00:00:51,060 --> 00:00:54,860 I've heard the name, but, um, I haven't actually used it or anything. 26 00:00:55,060 --> 00:01:00,540 Well, it's all about making group decisions smoother and more inclusive, and 27 00:01:00,540 --> 00:01:02,500 we're going to keep it super beginner friendly. 28 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:04,700 So if you're new to Lumio, don't worry. 29 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:05,500 We'll break it all down. 30 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:06,300 Perfect. 31 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:07,340 I'm all ears. 32 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:11,260 So first things first, what exactly is Lumio? 33 00:01:11,260 --> 00:01:12,860 So imagine it like this. 34 00:01:12,860 --> 00:01:19,540 Lumio is kind of like a, uh, dedicated online space specifically designed for 35 00:01:19,540 --> 00:01:21,780 groups to come together to make decisions. 36 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:27,100 And it's really geared toward organizations, membership organizations, 37 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:32,500 boards, even companies that want to be more, you know, team focused and 38 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:34,660 democratic in their decision making. 39 00:01:34,660 --> 00:01:37,020 So it's not just for like informal groups of friends. 40 00:01:37,020 --> 00:01:40,220 No, no, it's definitely got a more formal structure or organizational. 41 00:01:40,220 --> 00:01:40,820 Exactly. 42 00:01:40,820 --> 00:01:42,300 And you mentioned it's an online space. 43 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:44,740 So is it like a website and app? 44 00:01:44,740 --> 00:01:49,540 It's primarily a website, but it does also have some integration with other tools. 45 00:01:49,540 --> 00:01:49,860 Okay. 46 00:01:49,860 --> 00:01:50,180 Got it. 47 00:01:50,380 --> 00:01:53,500 And one of the cool things about Lumio is that it's open source. 48 00:01:53,500 --> 00:01:54,260 Oh, does that mean? 49 00:01:54,260 --> 00:01:57,420 That means the code that it's built on is publicly available. 50 00:01:57,420 --> 00:01:57,700 Okay. 51 00:01:57,700 --> 00:01:59,020 So anyone can see how it works. 52 00:01:59,020 --> 00:01:59,980 Oh, so it's transparent. 53 00:01:59,980 --> 00:02:01,100 Exactly. 54 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:05,980 And it's licensed under what's called AGPL 3.0, which basically means it's 55 00:02:05,980 --> 00:02:10,620 really about being open and involving the community and how it develops. 56 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:11,620 That makes sense. 57 00:02:11,620 --> 00:02:16,100 So let's say we have a, I don't know, a local hiking club, a classic 58 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:17,940 example of a membership organization. 59 00:02:17,940 --> 00:02:18,220 Sure. 60 00:02:18,220 --> 00:02:19,900 How could they use Lumio? 61 00:02:20,100 --> 00:02:21,460 What would be the benefit for them? 62 00:02:21,460 --> 00:02:22,700 Well, think about it. 63 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:26,220 Hiking clubs often rely on those occasional meetings, right? 64 00:02:26,220 --> 00:02:26,540 Right. 65 00:02:26,540 --> 00:02:30,900 But what about all the members who can't make it or maybe have ideas, but don't 66 00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:33,340 feel comfortable speaking up in a big group? 67 00:02:33,340 --> 00:02:35,740 Yeah, I guess you don't always get everyone's input. 68 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:36,500 Exactly. 69 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:37,740 That's where Lumio comes in. 70 00:02:37,740 --> 00:02:40,860 It gives all the members, no matter where they are or how busy their 71 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:44,340 schedules are, a way to participate in the discussions and actually 72 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:47,980 contribute to decisions, whether it's about, you know, new trails to 73 00:02:47,980 --> 00:02:50,740 explore or changing the club rules. 74 00:02:50,740 --> 00:02:51,060 Let's see. 75 00:02:51,060 --> 00:02:54,500 So even if you can't physically be there, you can still have a voice. 76 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:55,420 Exactly. 77 00:02:55,420 --> 00:02:58,300 And that can help things run more smoothly because, you know, you don't 78 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:00,380 have to wait for the next meeting to get things moving, right? 79 00:03:00,380 --> 00:03:01,700 Decisions can happen faster. 80 00:03:01,700 --> 00:03:05,620 Plus it makes everything more transparent because the whole discussion 81 00:03:05,620 --> 00:03:09,820 and the reasoning behind the decisions, it's all recorded for everyone to see. 82 00:03:09,820 --> 00:03:10,420 Okay. 83 00:03:10,420 --> 00:03:12,500 So more inclusive, more transparent. 84 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:13,900 That makes sense for a club. 85 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:16,140 Now, what about a company board? 86 00:03:17,140 --> 00:03:19,900 You know, they often deal with those big strategic decisions. 87 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:22,620 How does Lumio fit in there for boards? 88 00:03:22,620 --> 00:03:26,780 It's all about bringing structure to their decision making. 89 00:03:26,780 --> 00:03:31,660 They're often dealing with complex issues and Lumio can help improve 90 00:03:31,660 --> 00:03:35,260 communication between board members, especially in between those formal 91 00:03:35,260 --> 00:03:40,140 meetings, so they can have this online space where they can discuss proposals, 92 00:03:40,140 --> 00:03:44,260 share information, and ultimately make more informed and probably quicker 93 00:03:44,260 --> 00:03:46,460 decisions when important things come up. 94 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:49,860 That's super valuable when you have people with a busy schedules and you 95 00:03:49,860 --> 00:03:51,540 need to coordinate efficiently. 96 00:03:51,540 --> 00:03:52,220 Absolutely. 97 00:03:52,220 --> 00:03:55,420 And because everything's documented, it's great for maintaining what's 98 00:03:55,420 --> 00:03:56,940 called institutional memory. 99 00:03:56,940 --> 00:03:57,580 What does that mean? 100 00:03:57,580 --> 00:04:00,860 Well, it basically means you can go back and see why a certain 101 00:04:00,860 --> 00:04:02,540 decision was made maybe years ago. 102 00:04:02,540 --> 00:04:03,180 Oh, that's smart. 103 00:04:03,180 --> 00:04:05,100 It prevents those, why did we do that? 104 00:04:05,100 --> 00:04:06,580 Moments later on. 105 00:04:06,580 --> 00:04:07,460 It's exact. 106 00:04:07,460 --> 00:04:07,780 Okay. 107 00:04:07,780 --> 00:04:10,340 Now let's talk about self-managing organizations. 108 00:04:10,340 --> 00:04:13,060 I feel like this is where Lumio could really shine. 109 00:04:13,060 --> 00:04:14,020 Oh, absolutely. 110 00:04:14,060 --> 00:04:17,900 In self-managing organizations, you're trying to empower staff to 111 00:04:17,900 --> 00:04:19,860 make more decisions on their own, right? 112 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:20,300 Right. 113 00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:24,140 So Lumio is perfect for that because it gives them that platform 114 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:26,300 to do it in a clear, organized way. 115 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:26,580 Yeah. 116 00:04:26,580 --> 00:04:30,900 When people feel like their input actually matters, they're more 117 00:04:30,900 --> 00:04:32,820 likely to be invested in the outcomes. 118 00:04:32,820 --> 00:04:36,300 And that can lead to faster decision-making, better communication, 119 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:39,020 and just a more engaged workforce overall. 120 00:04:39,020 --> 00:04:41,860 So it's about fostering that sense of ownership and responsibility. 121 00:04:41,860 --> 00:04:42,620 Exactly. 122 00:04:42,620 --> 00:04:46,260 And again, the transparent communication and documented discussions are 123 00:04:46,260 --> 00:04:49,940 really key for building trust and understanding within the organization. 124 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:50,380 Okay. 125 00:04:50,380 --> 00:04:54,420 Now, curious, what are some of the specific things you can do on Lumio? 126 00:04:54,420 --> 00:04:55,580 What are the key features? 127 00:04:55,580 --> 00:04:59,620 Well, first and foremost, it lets you share information, suggest 128 00:04:59,620 --> 00:05:02,220 new topics for discussion, propose ideas. 129 00:05:02,220 --> 00:05:03,620 The basics, essentially. 130 00:05:03,620 --> 00:05:07,340 But what sets it apart is that it's designed to keep those discussions focused. 131 00:05:07,340 --> 00:05:07,740 Right. 132 00:05:07,740 --> 00:05:11,220 Because you don't want it to turn into just another chaotic chat room. 133 00:05:11,220 --> 00:05:12,020 Exactly. 134 00:05:12,180 --> 00:05:15,500 And it's built to be inclusive, even if people are in different 135 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:17,420 time zones or have different schedules. 136 00:05:17,420 --> 00:05:19,740 Because not everyone can be online at the same time. 137 00:05:19,740 --> 00:05:20,540 Exactly. 138 00:05:20,540 --> 00:05:22,900 It's what's called asynchronous communication. 139 00:05:22,900 --> 00:05:26,380 You can contribute when it's convenient for you. 140 00:05:26,380 --> 00:05:29,900 That's super important in today's world, especially for global teams. 141 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:30,820 Absolutely. 142 00:05:30,820 --> 00:05:35,060 And then there's the whole voting and polling system, which I find pretty cool. 143 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:35,620 Oh yeah. 144 00:05:35,620 --> 00:05:36,460 Tell me about that. 145 00:05:36,460 --> 00:05:37,300 What are the options? 146 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:39,940 Well, it's not just a simple yes or no. 147 00:05:39,940 --> 00:05:40,380 Right. 148 00:05:40,380 --> 00:05:44,180 You can do a quick show of thumbs to gauge the general feeling. 149 00:05:44,180 --> 00:05:47,260 Or if there are multiple choices, there's a multiple choice poll. 150 00:05:47,260 --> 00:05:48,140 Classic. 151 00:05:48,140 --> 00:05:52,420 And then for more nuanced decisions, there are options like score voting. 152 00:05:52,420 --> 00:05:53,460 Score voting. 153 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:53,780 Yeah. 154 00:05:53,780 --> 00:05:55,980 Where you rate the options on a scale. 155 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:56,420 I see. 156 00:05:56,420 --> 00:05:59,540 Or ranked choice voting, where you order your preferences. 157 00:05:59,540 --> 00:06:03,220 There's even dot voting, which lets people highlight the parts of a 158 00:06:03,220 --> 00:06:05,340 proposal they find most important. 159 00:06:05,340 --> 00:06:08,500 So a lot of flexibility, depending on the type of decision and 160 00:06:08,500 --> 00:06:09,860 the level of detail needed. 161 00:06:10,060 --> 00:06:10,420 Right. 162 00:06:10,420 --> 00:06:14,380 And of course there are those handy time polls for figuring out meeting 163 00:06:14,380 --> 00:06:16,660 times, which we all know can be a struggle. 164 00:06:16,660 --> 00:06:17,380 Oh, absolutely. 165 00:06:17,380 --> 00:06:18,860 Time polls are a lifesaver. 166 00:06:18,860 --> 00:06:25,060 So I know a lot of organizations already rely on tools like Slack or 167 00:06:25,060 --> 00:06:26,940 Mattermost for communication. 168 00:06:26,940 --> 00:06:29,300 Does Lumio play nicely with those? 169 00:06:29,300 --> 00:06:29,940 It does. 170 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:32,420 It integrates with both Slack and Mattermost. 171 00:06:32,420 --> 00:06:36,060 So you can get notifications about new discussions or decisions 172 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:37,900 right in your chat channels. 173 00:06:37,900 --> 00:06:39,020 That's really convenient. 174 00:06:39,020 --> 00:06:41,700 You don't have to be jumping between different platforms all the time. 175 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:42,420 Exactly. 176 00:06:42,420 --> 00:06:44,060 He keeps everything streamlined. 177 00:06:44,060 --> 00:06:48,660 Now in this day and age, data privacy is a big concern for a lot of people. 178 00:06:48,660 --> 00:06:49,220 Of course. 179 00:06:49,220 --> 00:06:50,500 How does Lumio handle that? 180 00:06:50,500 --> 00:06:55,700 Well, Lumio emphasizes that they don't treat their users as the product. 181 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:55,940 Okay. 182 00:06:55,940 --> 00:06:56,460 Good to know. 183 00:06:56,460 --> 00:07:01,180 They don't rely on advertising and any analysis of the platform is done 184 00:07:01,180 --> 00:07:05,740 internally without using third party trackers like Google Analytics. 185 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:07,460 That's a relief to hear. 186 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:10,380 Plus, they give you the option to export your data if you need to. 187 00:07:10,380 --> 00:07:11,180 That's great. 188 00:07:11,180 --> 00:07:15,140 Transparency and control over your information are so important. 189 00:07:15,140 --> 00:07:15,780 I agree. 190 00:07:15,780 --> 00:07:18,380 Now, what about language barriers? 191 00:07:18,380 --> 00:07:21,940 Is Lumio accessible to people who speak different languages? 192 00:07:21,940 --> 00:07:23,340 Yes, it is. 193 00:07:23,340 --> 00:07:25,620 It's available in a growing number of languages. 194 00:07:25,620 --> 00:07:26,140 Right. 195 00:07:26,140 --> 00:07:28,580 And they even have an automatic translation feature. 196 00:07:28,580 --> 00:07:30,020 Oh, wow. 197 00:07:30,020 --> 00:07:31,860 That can be a game changer for global 198 00:07:31,860 --> 00:07:35,420 organizations or even just groups with members from different backgrounds. 199 00:07:35,460 --> 00:07:37,820 Absolutely. It helps break down those communication 200 00:07:37,820 --> 00:07:40,540 barriers and make sure everyone can participate fully. 201 00:07:40,540 --> 00:07:43,100 All of this sounds fantastic in theory, 202 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:45,340 but I always like to see how things work in practice. 203 00:07:45,340 --> 00:07:45,980 Right. 204 00:07:45,980 --> 00:07:50,100 Do you have any real world examples of how organizations are using Lumio? 205 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:50,740 I do. 206 00:07:50,740 --> 00:07:53,460 There's actually a whole range of interesting cases. 207 00:07:53,460 --> 00:07:56,820 There's the Wychcliffe Eco Village in Australia. 208 00:07:56,820 --> 00:07:58,860 They use Lumio to help them develop 209 00:07:58,860 --> 00:08:02,180 a shared understanding as they were building their community. 210 00:08:02,180 --> 00:08:05,420 It really helped them make decisions together about their shared future. 211 00:08:05,420 --> 00:08:06,180 Interesting. 212 00:08:06,180 --> 00:08:07,620 That's a unique application. 213 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:11,100 Then there's a software company called Ten Pines that's used it 214 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:13,100 to create a more democratic workplace. 215 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:14,420 Oh, cool. 216 00:08:14,420 --> 00:08:17,380 I love hearing about companies embracing that kind of structure. 217 00:08:17,380 --> 00:08:19,340 Yeah, it's really inspiring. 218 00:08:19,340 --> 00:08:21,420 And another example, Camp Light. 219 00:08:21,420 --> 00:08:24,220 They actually managed to reach a company-wide agreement 220 00:08:24,220 --> 00:08:27,820 on a pretty big strategic decision in just one week, 221 00:08:27,820 --> 00:08:29,260 all while working remotely. 222 00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:31,060 Wow, that's efficient. 223 00:08:31,060 --> 00:08:32,820 Yeah, pretty impressive. 224 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:35,540 Then you've got the Green Party of West Australia. 225 00:08:35,540 --> 00:08:37,780 They've said they've had much better board governance 226 00:08:37,780 --> 00:08:40,260 and even some cost savings, thanks to Lumeo. 227 00:08:40,260 --> 00:08:41,380 That's great to hear. 228 00:08:41,380 --> 00:08:44,340 And do you have any examples of larger organisations using it? 229 00:08:44,340 --> 00:08:45,740 Yes. 230 00:08:45,740 --> 00:08:49,700 The New Zealand Education Institute, or NZEI, 231 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:52,380 they have a massive nationwide membership, 232 00:08:52,380 --> 00:08:55,100 and they've found Lumeo to be a really effective way 233 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:56,660 to engage their members. 234 00:08:56,660 --> 00:08:58,740 Those are some really diverse examples. 235 00:08:58,740 --> 00:09:02,460 It really shows that Lumeo can work for a variety of groups and purposes. 236 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:06,420 Now, earlier you mentioned Lumeo has these templates for decision-making. 237 00:09:06,420 --> 00:09:07,460 Right. 238 00:09:07,460 --> 00:09:09,340 Can you explain what those are and how they simplify things? 239 00:09:09,340 --> 00:09:12,700 So these templates are basically pre-designed frameworks 240 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:14,620 for different kinds of decisions. 241 00:09:14,620 --> 00:09:16,660 They can be a really helpful starting point. 242 00:09:16,660 --> 00:09:18,900 For example, there's the advice template. 243 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:22,580 That's when, say, one person needs to make a decision 244 00:09:22,580 --> 00:09:26,420 but wants to gather input and suggestions from others first. 245 00:09:26,420 --> 00:09:30,700 Oh, so it's like a structured way to get feedback before finalising something. 246 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:31,740 Exactly. 247 00:09:31,780 --> 00:09:33,260 And what other templates are there? 248 00:09:33,260 --> 00:09:35,180 Well, there's the consent template, 249 00:09:35,180 --> 00:09:39,140 which is used when you want to make a decision that's considered safe to try, 250 00:09:39,140 --> 00:09:41,460 meaning there are no major objections. 251 00:09:41,460 --> 00:09:42,500 OK. 252 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:45,740 It's not about finding the perfect solution, necessarily, 253 00:09:45,740 --> 00:09:48,700 but one that everyone can live with for now. 254 00:09:48,700 --> 00:09:49,740 Makes sense. 255 00:09:49,740 --> 00:09:51,460 And then there's the consensus template, 256 00:09:51,460 --> 00:09:54,940 which is for when you really need to get everyone on board with a decision. 257 00:09:54,940 --> 00:09:56,900 So aiming for full agreement. 258 00:09:56,900 --> 00:09:57,940 Yep. 259 00:09:57,980 --> 00:10:02,380 And it encourages, you know, really in-depth discussion and collaboration 260 00:10:02,380 --> 00:10:05,660 to find a solution everyone actively supports. 261 00:10:05,660 --> 00:10:08,100 And can you customize these templates? 262 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:08,860 Or are they fixed? 263 00:10:08,860 --> 00:10:10,300 You can definitely customize them. 264 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:10,860 Oh, good. 265 00:10:10,860 --> 00:10:13,860 You can adapt them to fit your organization's specific needs 266 00:10:13,860 --> 00:10:15,260 and how you like to work. 267 00:10:15,260 --> 00:10:16,420 Flexibility is key. 268 00:10:16,420 --> 00:10:17,220 Absolutely. 269 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:18,820 Now, all this sounds great. 270 00:10:18,820 --> 00:10:22,060 But for someone who might not be, you know, a tech wizard, 271 00:10:22,060 --> 00:10:24,860 how easy is Luneo to actually use? 272 00:10:24,860 --> 00:10:27,260 It's designed to be pretty user friendly. 273 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:29,940 A lot of people say it's similar to social networking sites. 274 00:10:29,940 --> 00:10:33,100 So if you can use Facebook or Twitter, 275 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:35,460 you can probably figure out Luneo. 276 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:37,100 OK, that's reassuring. 277 00:10:37,100 --> 00:10:39,540 And importantly, you don't even need to be constantly online 278 00:10:39,540 --> 00:10:40,300 to use it. 279 00:10:40,300 --> 00:10:40,820 Oh, really? 280 00:10:40,820 --> 00:10:43,020 Yeah, you can participate in discussions 281 00:10:43,020 --> 00:10:45,260 and contribute to decisions just through email. 282 00:10:45,260 --> 00:10:45,940 That's awesome. 283 00:10:45,940 --> 00:10:48,900 It's great for people who aren't always checking the platform. 284 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:50,020 Accessibility for all. 285 00:10:50,020 --> 00:10:50,860 Exactly. 286 00:10:50,860 --> 00:10:53,460 And for those concerned about data location, 287 00:10:53,460 --> 00:10:56,380 Luneo offers cloud hosting options in different regions, 288 00:10:56,420 --> 00:10:59,820 including the EU, the US, and Australia, New Zealand. 289 00:10:59,820 --> 00:11:02,340 That's great for organizations that have specific data 290 00:11:02,340 --> 00:11:04,300 residency requirements. 291 00:11:04,300 --> 00:11:05,860 So it sounds like Luneo really does 292 00:11:05,860 --> 00:11:08,700 offer a comprehensive solution for making group decisions 293 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:12,980 smoother, more inclusive, and ultimately more effective. 294 00:11:12,980 --> 00:11:13,580 I think so. 295 00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:15,860 It's about empowering groups to work together 296 00:11:15,860 --> 00:11:18,940 in a more transparent and fairer way. 297 00:11:18,940 --> 00:11:21,220 And in the end, that leads to better decisions 298 00:11:21,220 --> 00:11:22,740 and stronger communities. 299 00:11:22,740 --> 00:11:23,820 I love that. 300 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:26,300 So to our listeners out there, think 301 00:11:26,340 --> 00:11:28,020 about the groups and organizations 302 00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:28,820 you're involved with. 303 00:11:28,820 --> 00:11:31,180 Could Lumeo help you make decisions better? 304 00:11:31,180 --> 00:11:32,820 If you're interested in learning more, 305 00:11:32,820 --> 00:11:34,620 you can visit lumio.com. 306 00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:35,940 It's definitely worth checking out. 307 00:11:35,940 --> 00:11:37,220 And you can even try for free. 308 00:11:37,220 --> 00:11:37,860 Perfect. 309 00:11:37,860 --> 00:11:40,380 And of course, a huge thank you to SafeServer, 310 00:11:40,380 --> 00:11:44,380 www.safeserver.de, for their continued support. 311 00:11:44,380 --> 00:11:47,580 Without them, these deep dives wouldn't be possible. 312 00:11:47,580 --> 00:11:50,220 They're the backbone of our digital world, really. 313 00:11:50,220 --> 00:11:51,220 They are. 314 00:11:51,220 --> 00:11:52,780 And to wrap things up, here's a question 315 00:11:52,780 --> 00:11:54,540 for everyone listening. 316 00:11:54,580 --> 00:11:56,980 What decision could your group make more effectively 317 00:11:56,980 --> 00:12:00,580 if every single voice was truly heard? 318 00:12:00,580 --> 00:12:02,020 That's a great question. 319 00:12:02,020 --> 00:12:03,820 Something to ponder. 320 00:12:03,820 --> 00:12:05,740 Thanks for joining us on this deep dive,