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Hey everyone, and welcome back to the Deep Dive.

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Today we are going to be talking about something

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I think you'll find super interesting.

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Yeah, this should be a good one.

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We're going to be looking at Miro Talk.

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Miro Talk, yeah.

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Which is this really interesting web-based

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video conferencing platform that promises

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a simple, secure, and fast experience.

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For sure.

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And all of our information

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is coming straight from the source.

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Straight from Miro Talk.

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Yeah, we have some excerpts from their website,

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and what seems like some of their marketing material.

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So we'll see what they have to say about themselves.

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Yeah, exactly.

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It's always interesting to see

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how companies present themselves.

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You know?

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Yeah, their value proposition.

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And I think right off the bat,

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what's interesting about Miro Talk

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is how much they lean into this ease of use.

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Yeah.

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And they seem to be really targeting

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someone like our listener.

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The learner.

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The learner, exactly.

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Who just wants to get things done quickly and efficiently.

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Frictionless.

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Frictionless, yeah.

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Absolutely no downloads, no plugins.

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They even say no login required.

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Just click and connect.

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Just click and connect.

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It's very appealing.

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I think that's a big part of their...

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Tagline.

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Yeah, their tagline.

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Simple, secure, fast.

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But also this idea of unlimited number

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of conference rooms and users

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without call time limitation.

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Oh yeah, that was a big one.

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That's huge.

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Especially if you are thinking about

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maybe doing some sort of big virtual event

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or even, you know...

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Hosting a whole online course or something.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Or even just like an impromptu study session

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with friends, you know.

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It's tool done.

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Where you don't have to worry about being cut off

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after 40 minutes or something like that.

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Yeah, I'm already picturing all the possibilities, but...

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It's pretty exciting.

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Yeah, before we get too carried away,

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I want to talk tech for a second.

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Okay, let's do it.

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Cause they mentioned something called WebRTC.

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Yeah, WebRTC.

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That's kind of the backbone of a lot of these modern,

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you know, video conferencing platforms.

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Yeah, it sounds pretty important,

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so can you explain what it is?

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Sure.

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So WebRTC is basically a technology

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that allows for real-time communication.

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Directly within your web browser.

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Oh, so you don't have to download anything.

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Exactly, no downloads, no extra software required.

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It's like having this built-in communication hub

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right there in your browser.

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So that's how they can deliver that high video quality

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they're always talking about.

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Exactly.

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WebRTC enables the high video quality, the low latency,

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and it just makes everything run a lot smoother.

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And it's compatible with all these different browsers, too,

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right?

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Yeah, they list a whole bunch, Chrome Edge, Firefox,

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Opera Safari, even Brave.

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Wow, so even on my phone.

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Yeah, it should work across pretty much any device,

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desktops, laptops, tablets, smartphones, you name it.

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OK, I'm starting to get the simple part of their tagline

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now.

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Yeah, right.

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But what about all these features they're listing?

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I mean, there's a ton of them.

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Yeah, they really went all out, it seems like.

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They wanted to make sure that it has everything you could

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possibly need for a productive online meeting or learning

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sessions.

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So where do we even begin?

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Well, I don't know which one jumps out at you.

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And screen sharing is always a big one for me.

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And they're saying something about 8K resolution.

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8K resolution.

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That seems insanely clear.

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Oh, yeah, for screen sharing and webcam streaming, too.

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Imagine that level of detail.

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I can't even picture that.

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Think about online art classes, where

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you need to see every single brushstroke,

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or maybe engineering presentations,

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where you're sharing these incredibly intricate designs.

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Oh, yeah.

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That's a whole new level of clarity and precision.

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Now that you mention it, I could see

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that being super useful for medical consultations, too.

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Oh, absolutely.

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A doctor could examine a patient's rash or injury

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with incredible detail, even remotely.

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Yeah, that opens up a lot of possibilities.

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Definitely.

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And speaking of collaboration, we

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can't forget about the whiteboard feature.

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Ooh, yeah, the whiteboard.

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That's something I'm always excited to see.

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Me, too.

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I think it's so essential for these types of platforms.

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What makes Miratak's whiteboard stand out, though?

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Well, it's really the collaborative aspect of it.

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It's not just a blank canvas.

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It's a space where you can brainstorm ideas, sketch out

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diagrams, or visually explain concepts

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in real time with others.

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So it's like having a giant virtual whiteboard

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in your meeting room.

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Exactly, and everyone can contribute and build

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upon each other's ideas.

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OK, now I'm really picturing those online workshops

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and brainstorming sessions coming to life.

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For sure, it's very cool.

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But with all this sharing going on, what about security?

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I mean, is everything encrypted and protected?

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Yeah, that's a good point.

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And they do emphasize security and privacy

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quite a bit in these materials.

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They use something called DTLS for secure file sharing,

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which basically adds an extra layer of protection

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to make sure that those files stay

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private during transmission.

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DTLS, is that anything like the SRTP encryption

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they mentioned for the video and audio?

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It's a similar concept just applied to file transfers.

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Think of it like a secure courier service for your data,

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making sure it gets to its destination safely

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and without being intercepted.

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OK, so it's like double encryption

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for double the security.

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They seem pretty serious about keeping those conversations

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and files private.

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Well, that's definitely a plus in my book.

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For sure.

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And speaking of sharing, there's one feature here

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that really caught my eye.

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It's the chat GPT integration.

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Oh, yeah, the chat GPT integration.

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This is where it gets really interesting.

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What exactly does that even mean, though?

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So it's like having this super-powered research

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assistant right there in the meeting with you.

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So imagine you're in a virtual study group,

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and someone brings up a concept that's a bit fuzzy.

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Instead of getting sidetracked trying to look it up,

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you could simply ask chat GPT, hey,

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can you give me a quick summary of whatever it is?

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Whoa, that's actually super cool.

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I could see that being really helpful.

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Especially in a fast-paced learning environment.

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But it's not just for students.

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Think about team meetings, where you

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need to make quick decisions based on data.

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Chat GPT could analyze information,

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pull up relevant research, even help you

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brainstorm different solutions.

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So it's like having access to all this knowledge

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and processing power on the fly.

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Exactly, no matter where you are or what you're working on.

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OK, now my mind is racing with all the possibilities.

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Yeah, it's pretty exciting stuff.

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But does it actually work well within a live video call?

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Have you used it?

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Well, I think we're still in the early stages

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of this kind of integration.

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But from what we've seen so far, it definitely

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has the potential to be a game changer.

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Yeah, it could really change how we learn and collaborate

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online.

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For sure.

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OK, so we've covered a lot of ground here,

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from the simplicity of WebRTC to the potential

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of chat GPT integration.

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It seems like Miro Talk really tries

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to pack in the features, especially

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for a free platform.

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It does.

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And they don't skimp on security and privacy

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either, which is a big deal these days.

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It is.

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I'm already starting to see why Miro Talk might be so appealing,

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especially for someone like our listener.

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Who's always eager to learn and connect with others online.

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I think you're right.

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But there's still a lot more to unpack here.

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We've just scratched the surface of Miro Talk potential.

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Definite.

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We still need to explore the specifics of how

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all this technology works together

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and how Miro Talk ensures those high levels of security

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and privacy they keep mentioning.

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And of course, we can't forget about the mastermind

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behind it all, Miroslav Petrijec.

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There's a lot more to discover about Miro Talk, so stay tuned.

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We'll be right back.

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All right, so we're back, and we're diving even deeper

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into this Miro Talk world.

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Yeah, Miro Talk.

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Before we went on that whole chat GPT tangent,

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we were talking about how Miro Talk uses WebRTC

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to give a really seamless experience.

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But I'll be honest, all this tech talk.

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It can get a little complicated.

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Yeah, it kind of goes over my head sometimes.

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So can we break down how it actually works

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for the everyday user?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So think about it this way.

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You know how sometimes you want to join a video call,

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and then you're suddenly scrambling to download an app?

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Oh, or you're trying to find the right plug-in?

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Yeah, or you're wrestling with outdated plug-ins.

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Ugh, it's the worst.

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And by the time you actually connect,

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the meeting's halfway over.

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Right, exactly.

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So WebRTC basically eliminates all that,

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because it's built right into most modern web browsers.

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Oh, so you don't need anything special.

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No, you don't need anything special.

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So joining a Mirotalk meeting is literally

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as easy as clicking a link.

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Just click a link.

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No downloads, no installations, no matter

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what device you're using.

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OK, that makes a lot more sense.

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So it's all about accessibility and user-friendliness.

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But I am still curious about this SFU thing.

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OK, yeah, the SFU.

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What exactly does that do?

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So SFU stands for Selective Forwarding Unit.

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And it's kind of the secret sauce

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that helps Mirotalk deliver that really smooth, high quality

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video even with a bunch of people on the call.

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So imagine it like this.

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You're at a busy airport, right?

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OK, I'm picturing it lots of planes taking off and landing.

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Lots of planes coming and going.

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Now imagine if every single plane

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had to report to one central control tower

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before being directed to its destination.

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Oh my gosh, it would be chaos.

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Total chaos, right?

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Delays congestion.

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Everything would just grind to a halt.

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A recipe for disaster.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Well, that's kind of how traditional video conferencing works.

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Oh, really?

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Everyone's video and audio streams

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have to go through a central server, which then has to send them

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back out to all the participants.

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OK.

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And that can be a real bottleneck, especially with larger groups.

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So the SFU is like a smarter, more efficient air traffic control?

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Precisely.

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With an SFU, each participant's stream goes to the server.

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But the server only forwards the necessary streams

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to the other people on the call.

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So it's more direct.

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Much more direct.

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It's like each plane has its own personalized flight plan.

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So there's no wasted time or resources.

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Wow, I like that analogy.

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So less strain on the server, smoother video,

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and fewer of those annoying lag spikes.

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OK.

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So that makes total sense why they would use that,

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especially since they're all about unlimited users

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and no call time limits.

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Exactly.

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MuraTalk is designed to handle large groups and extended sessions

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without compromising on quality.

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Well, they seem to have thought that through.

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Yeah.

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I think you've unlimited.

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I think we should circle back to that chat GPT integration

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for a moment.

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Oh, yes, please.

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Let's get back to that.

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We touched on it briefly earlier,

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but I think it's worth digging a little deeper.

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I agree.

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It was so fascinating.

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Yeah.

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But I'm still trying to wrap my head around how it would

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actually work in a live video call.

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What are some real world examples

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of how chat GPT could actually enhance

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learning or collaboration?

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OK, well, imagine you're in a virtual classroom

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and the discussion turns to a historical event.

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Someone mentions a name or a date

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that you don't quite remember.

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Instead of interrupting the flow to Google it,

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you could just ask chat GPT, hey,

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could you give me a quick summary of the Battle of Hastings

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or whatever it is?

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Oh my gosh.

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That would be so convenient.

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Right.

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Instant history lesson right there in the meeting.

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No more awkward pauses.

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No more awkward pauses.

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No more frantic Googling.

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I love it.

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Or imagine you're in a language learning group

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and someone uses a phrase that you're not familiar with.

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Chat GPT could translate it on the fly, provide definitions,

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even give you examples of how to use it in a sentence.

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It's like having your own personal tutor.

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Precisely.

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And it goes beyond just answering questions.

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Chat GPT can help facilitate brainstorming sessions

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by suggesting related ideas, summarizing key points,

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even generating creative prompts to keep

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the conversation flowing.

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That's incredible.

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It's a very powerful tool.

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Yeah, it sounds like it could be an incredible asset for really

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anyone.

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Yeah, anyone who's learning, collaborating,

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or just trying to process information more efficiently.

363
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OK, you've officially blown my mind.

364
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Well, we're just scratching the surface here.

365
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I think as AI continues to evolve,

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we're going to see even more innovative ways to integrate

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tools like Chat GPT.

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Into our everyday lives.

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Exactly, into online learning and communication platforms.

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That is exciting.

371
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Yeah, it's very exciting stuff.

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But before we get too carried away

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with future possibilities.

374
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Right, let's reel it back in.

375
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Let's get back to the here.

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Anna, now we keep hearing about Mirotalk's commitment

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to total privacy and maximum security.

378
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Yeah, but I have to admit, I'm a little skeptical.

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That's understandable.

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How can they really guarantee that in an online environment?

381
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It's a fair question.

382
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I think it's important to understand the technology

383
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behind those claims and see if they actually

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hold up to Trudney.

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Yeah.

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So let's start with that SRTP encryption

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that you keep mentioning.

388
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OK, break it down for me.

389
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What does SRTP actually do?

390
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OK, so think of SRTP as a super secret code

391
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that only you and the other people in your Mirror Talk

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meeting have access to.

393
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OK.

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It basically scrambles your video and audio streams.

395
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It scrambles.

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So even if someone were to intercept them,

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let's say, on a public Wi-Fi network,

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all they would see is just a jumbled mess of data.

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So it's like those secret messages

400
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you used to send as a kid where you'd shift

401
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all the letters in the alphabet?

402
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Exactly.

403
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But way more sophisticated, of course.

404
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It's like having a private conversation in a crowded room.

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But instead of whispering, you're

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using this incredibly complex algorithm

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to disguise your words.

408
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OK, that's reassuring.

409
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Yeah, so you can feel confident that your conversations

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are private.

411
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But what about file sharing?

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Is that protected as well?

413
00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:01,880
Absolutely.

414
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Remember that DTLS protocol we mentioned earlier?

415
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Yes.

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That's specifically designed for secure file transfers.

417
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So any documents, images, or other files

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that you share during a mural talk meeting

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are encrypted and protected during transmission.

420
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So double encryption for double the security.

421
00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:17,280
Exactly.

422
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Sounds like they're taking this seriously.

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Yeah, they are.

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But what about the data itself?

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Do they collect any information about you

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when you use mural talk?

427
00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,960
Yeah, that's a good question.

428
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That's a really important question,

429
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and one that a lot of people are concerned about these days.

430
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And what's interesting is that mural talk very clearly

431
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states that they don't collect or share

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personal information.

433
00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,040
Oh, wow.

434
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They even emphasize that data stays between you

435
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and your participants.

436
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That's a pretty bold claim.

437
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It is, most online platforms collect at least some data,

438
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even if it's just for analytics or to improve their services.

439
00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:52,600
Yeah, you're right.

440
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That's not the norm.

441
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But it seems like mural talk is making a conscious effort

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to prioritize user privacy, which is quite refreshing.

443
00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:01,880
I agree.

444
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It is refreshing.

445
00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,040
Of course, you'd need to dig deeper

446
00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,000
into their privacy policy and terms of service

447
00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,080
to see exactly what they mean by that statement.

448
00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:08,680
Right.

449
00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:10,360
But it's a promising start.

450
00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,120
OK, so we have WebRTC, SFU encryption,

451
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chat GPT integration, and now privacy.

452
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I'd just like to take in.

453
00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,080
Yeah, my brain is officially full.

454
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I know, right?

455
00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,640
But I have to say, I'm really starting

456
00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,560
to see the appeal of mural talk.

457
00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,080
Me too.

458
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They've really thought of everything.

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From the tech side to the user experience.

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It seems to be designed to be a really powerful, accessible,

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and privacy-focused platform.

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For online learning and collaboration.

463
00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,520
Exactly.

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I'm impressed.

465
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But there's still one piece of the puzzle

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we haven't explored yet.

467
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It is.

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The creator himself, Miroslav Pidjic.

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Ooh, yes.

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Let's dive into his story and see what inspired

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him to create mural talk.

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All right, stay with us.

473
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Welcome back to the deep dive.

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We've been on quite a journey with mural talk.

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We have.

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From the tech specs to the user experience,

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it seems like they really have thought of everything.

478
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They really have.

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But before we wrap up, I think it's

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time to give some credit, where credit

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is due to the brilliant mind behind mural talk.

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Yes.

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Miroslav Pidzic.

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Miroslav Pidzic, the full stack developer,

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who brought this innovative platform to life.

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And what's interesting is, looking at all this material,

487
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it seems like he created mural talk as a personal project.

488
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Really?

489
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Yeah, it wasn't born out of some big tech company or venture

490
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capital funding.

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It was driven by a passion for technology

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and a desire to make a difference.

493
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That's so cool.

494
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It makes me think of those classic inventor stories,

495
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you know, where someone's tinkering away in their garage

496
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driven by curiosity and this desire to solve a problem.

497
00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:45,040
Exactly.

498
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Except in this case, it's a digital garage lines of code

499
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instead of engine parts.

500
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Right.

501
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And just like those classic inventors,

502
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Miroslav seems to have tapped into something truly innovative.

503
00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,000
Yeah.

504
00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,360
You know, mural talk isn't just another video conferencing app.

505
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It's a platform that has the potential

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to change the way we learn, collaborate, and connect online.

507
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I totally agree.

508
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And it all comes back to those core principles.

509
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You know, simplicity, security, and speed.

510
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For sure.

511
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But what I find the most intriguing

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is this commitment to privacy.

513
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Yeah.

514
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They're really going against the grain in today's data hungry world.

515
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They are.

516
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And I think that's a big part of what makes mural talk so compelling,

517
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in a time when we're constantly bombarded with ads and targeted content.

518
00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:27,920
Oh, yeah.

519
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,680
It's refreshing to see a platform that prioritizes

520
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user control and data ownership.

521
00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,520
Yeah, it's like they're saying, we're not interested in your data.

522
00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,320
We're here to empower you to communicate and collaborate

523
00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,000
freely without compromising your privacy.

524
00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:42,600
Exactly.

525
00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,040
And that's a really powerful message, especially

526
00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:50,440
for those who are hesitant to embrace new technologies because of privacy

527
00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,160
concerns.

528
00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,600
It makes you wonder if a small independent developer can create

529
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a platform that prioritizes user privacy.

530
00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,800
Why can't the big tech giants do the same?

531
00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,760
That's the million dollar question, isn't it?

532
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:08,400
It is, and perhaps Mirotalk can serve as an example, a beacon of hope

533
00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,080
for a more privacy conscious future of technology.

534
00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,360
I like that, a beacon of hope.

535
00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:15,960
Yeah, it feels like we've come full circle in this deep dive.

536
00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,920
We started with the simple promise of easy, secure, and fast video

537
00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,600
conferencing, and now we're contemplating the broader implications

538
00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,400
of Mirotalk's approach, the potential it holds for a more equitable

539
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,480
and privacy-focused digital landscape.

540
00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,440
It's been quite a journey.

541
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,360
It has, and it's a journey that we encourage you, the listener,

542
00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:35,440
to continue.

543
00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,960
We've given you the tools, the insights, and the inspiration.

544
00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,680
Now it's your turn to explore Mirotalk for yourself.

545
00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:42,560
Absolutely.

546
00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,360
See how it fits into your own online life.

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Give it a try.

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Experiment with the features, and let us know what you think.

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Could Mirotalk be the game changer we've been searching for?

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Could it transform the way we learn, connect, and collaborate online?

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We're eager to hear your thoughts.

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We are.

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Until next time.

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KEEP DIVING DEEP