1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,360 Hey everyone and welcome back for another deep dive. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,480 You know, we love getting into the nitty gritty of things here and today is no 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,920 exception. We are diving headfirst into the world of open source, 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,360 mail delivery platforms. I know, right? 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Specifically we're going to be looking at postal. Okay. Which, you know, 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,080 it might sound a little bit technical at first glance, but I promise you, 7 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:26,920 it's something that affects pretty much all of us online in ways that we probably 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,320 don't even realize. Yeah. Um, before we get into that though, 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,120 a huge thank you to safe server for powering today's deep dive. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,400 Always appreciate them. 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,840 They are the experts in hosting solutions and even digital transformation. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,680 That's right. So if that's something you're thinking about, 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,440 be sure to check them out at www.safeserver.de. Absolutely. All right. 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,120 So postal, open source, mail delivery. Sounds interesting. 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,040 We're even talking about here. 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,640 Well, I think the best way to understand postal is to think about like the big 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,080 names in email, like, you know, send grid or mail. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,400 Postal is basically like having your own mini version of those running on your 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,080 own servers. Okay. So instead of relying on like a big company to handle all my 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,640 emails, I would have like my own setup. Exactly. 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,320 But why would someone choose to do that? I mean, it sounds like a lot of work. 22 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:18,800 You know, it definitely can be, but for some businesses or individuals, 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,080 that control and that flexibility that comes with it is a real game changer. 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Okay. I see. Imagine, you know, being able to customize every single aspect of 25 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,760 your email system from, you know, security protocols to sending limits. 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,840 Yeah. You're not locked into a one size fits all solution. 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,840 So like if I'm a company that's, you know, growing really quickly, 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,600 I can scale my email system along with my growth. 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,320 Precisely. You can adjust capacity as needed and it integrates seamlessly with 30 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:51,240 your existing systems. Cool. And I'm not a developer, but I can imagine this is 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,520 really appealing for developers too. Right? Absolutely. Yeah. Um, you know, 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,960 our sources highlight a really cool feature called development mode. Okay. 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,840 You're building a website and you're testing out, you know, 34 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,160 email functionality with postal. 35 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,600 You can actually hold those test emails in a queue and it prevents them from 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,080 accidentally going out to like your whole subscriber list. Oh, 37 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,520 that's a lifesaver. It is. 38 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,520 I've definitely sent a few accidental test emails in my time. Oh yeah. 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,080 We've all been there and it is not fun. No, it's not fun. But okay. 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,260 So if I'm running my own email server, that also means I have to worry about 41 00:02:22,260 --> 00:02:23,840 security myself, right? 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,840 That's a great question and security is definitely top of mind for anyone 43 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,080 considering this. Yeah, it sounds kind of intimidating. Understandably so, 44 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,980 but the good news is postal has a lot of security features built in. Okay. 45 00:02:34,980 --> 00:02:40,000 Like it integrates with spam assassin, which is a spam filter and are spammed, 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,280 which is another spam filter. Gotcha. 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,960 These tools help protect your emails from like viruses and other threats. 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,080 So it's like having a whole security team working behind the scenes to keep my 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,440 emails safe. Yeah, you can think of it that way. That makes me feel better. Good. 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,000 But I am still kind of curious about this whole open sources thing. Okay. 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,580 Like what does that actually mean for someone who might be considering using 52 00:03:00,580 --> 00:03:01,360 postal? Yeah. 53 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,960 So open source basically means the code behind postal is publicly available. 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,360 Okay. So anyone can see it, use it and modify it. That's interesting. 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,360 So it's kind of like sharing the recipe instead of just selling the finished 56 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,480 dish. Yeah. That's a good analogy. I like that. And that brings a lot of advantages. 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,800 Okay. Like what? Well, first of all, it means transparency. Okay. 58 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,880 You can see exactly how the software works, 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,560 which can be really reassuring from like a security and privacy standpoint. 60 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Right. So no more black boxes. Exactly. Or hidden algorithms. No more of that. 61 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,120 Cool. What else? So the second big advantage is customizability. Okay. 62 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,600 If you've got the technical skills, 63 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,280 you can actually tweak and modify postal to fit your specific needs. 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,560 You're not limited by, you know, whatever the company decides to include. 65 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,600 And then finally it can often mean lower costs. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,360 You don't have to pay those expensive licensing fees that come with a lot of 67 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,480 proprietary software. Okay. So this started to sound pretty good. Yeah. 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,320 So for someone who's hearing about postal for the first time, 69 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,320 what would you say are the key things that set it apart from those big name 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,320 email providers? 71 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:08,280 I think the biggest difference is the level of control you have with postal. 72 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,240 You're really in the driver's seat. You decide how it's set up, 73 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,920 how it's secured, how it scales. It's all about empowerment and flexibility. 74 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,440 That makes a lot of sense. But with great power comes great responsibility, 75 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,720 right? That's right. Running my own mail server. Sounds like it requires, 76 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,720 you know, a decent amount of technical expertise. Yeah, that's true. 77 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,920 It's not just plug and play, but it's not as daunting as it might seem at first 78 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,640 either. Okay. Postal comes with, you know, comprehensive documentation. 79 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,560 There's an active community of users and developers who are always willing to 80 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,400 help. Oh, wow. So you're not just left to figure it out on your own. 81 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,640 Not at all. And plus the web interface is designed to be pretty user friendly, 82 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,120 even if you're not like a server admin. Oh, cool. You can manage your servers, 83 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,120 view logs, configure settings. Wow. All from a central dashboard. 84 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,680 So it's like finding that balance between like power and usability. 85 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,960 Exactly. I like that. And you know, 86 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,280 we mentioned earlier that one of the great things about open source software is 87 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:07,700 that community aspect. Absolutely. And postal is a great example of that. 88 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:11,960 Our source actually included a call for support for the project. 89 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,000 They're encouraging anyone who's interested in contributing to reach out. 90 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,560 That's so cool. So it's not just about using the software. 91 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,920 It's about being part of something bigger. It really is. 92 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,320 It's about contributing to the growth and the evolution of this tool that can 93 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,440 benefit everybody. I love that. Okay. 94 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,800 So we've talked about a lot of the technical aspects and the benefits of using 95 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,520 Postal, but I want to bring it back to the listener for a moment. Sure. 96 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,680 So imagine you're running an online business, sending out newsletters, 97 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,920 marketing emails, all those essential communications. 98 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,760 Why should you care about the difference between an open source solution like 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,000 Postal and those big established email providers? 100 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,080 That's a great question. And you know, 101 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:58,080 it boils down to a few key factors, control transparency and cost. 102 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,000 With Postal, you're not just a customer. 103 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,360 You're part of a community, right? 104 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,320 You have a say in how the software evolves. You have access to the underlying code. 105 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,560 You know exactly what's happening with your data. 106 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,800 And you can potentially save a lot of money in the long run. 107 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:14,960 That's always good. 108 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:20,400 So it's about having more autonomy over my digital infrastructure, 109 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,120 understanding how things work and saving some cash along the way. 110 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Sounds pretty appealing to me, but I got to admit, 111 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,960 I'm still a little intimidated by this whole running my own mail server thing. 112 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,800 I understand. 113 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,240 Is this really something that anyone can do or do you need to be like a tech 114 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,960 wizard to get started with postal? 115 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,240 That's a really common misconception about open source software. And while, 116 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,000 you know, it does require some level of technical comfort, 117 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,480 postal has done a great job of simplifying that setup and configuration process. 118 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,520 They have excellent documentation, active community forums, 119 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,400 and the interface is very user friendly. Wow. 120 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,400 So you're saying I don't need a degree in computer science to get this thing up 121 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,400 and running. Not at all. 122 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,120 There's plenty of resources to guide you through the process. 123 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,760 And if you do hit a snag, the community is always there to help. Oh, 124 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,600 that's great. It's almost like having tech support on call 24 seven. Yeah. 125 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,520 Except they're volunteers who are passionate about open source. That's great. 126 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,560 Cool. Well, 127 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,640 we've covered a lot of ground in this first part of our deep dive we have from 128 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,960 the basics of what postal is to the advantages of open source and the 129 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,920 importance of community. But before we wrap up, 130 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,560 I want to go back to a couple of features that really caught my eye. 131 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,040 The development mode and the scalability aspect. Right. 132 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,600 I think those are especially relevant for, you know, 133 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,880 our listeners who are running businesses or working on web dev projects. 134 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,560 Absolutely. 135 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,520 So let's dive a little deeper into those in the next part of our conversation. 136 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,800 Sounds like a plan. Awesome. Yeah. Okay. 137 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,160 So let's talk more about that development though. Yeah. Let's get into that. 138 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,480 Anyone who's ever accidentally sent out like a test email to their entire list. 139 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,920 Oh my God. This feature is a game changer. Oh, tell me about the panic is real. 140 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,240 So how does this development mode actually work? 141 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,320 Basically it lets you queue up emails while you're like testing things out. 142 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,040 You can preview them, make sure everything looks good. 143 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,840 And only when you're absolutely certain, do they actually go out. 144 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,800 That takes away so much of the stress. It really does. Oh my God. 145 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,560 No more triple checking every recipient before I hit send. Exactly. 146 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,760 And I imagine this is especially helpful for like developers who are constantly 147 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,480 testing and tweaking things. 148 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,520 Yeah, absolutely. It really streamlines their workflow. That's amazing. 149 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,840 Okay. So development mode, you have my heart. Good. What about scalability though? 150 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,240 Okay. Yeah. We touched on this a little bit before, 151 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:36,080 but I'd love to like really dig in here for our listeners who are running 152 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,280 businesses or projects that are growing quickly. Why is this such a big deal? 153 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,360 So think about it this way. Okay. You start with a small email list. 154 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,920 Maybe you're sending out a newsletter once a month. Yeah. 155 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,880 A basic email plan from one of the big providers might work just fine. Right. 156 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,920 But then let's say your business takes off. Your list grows. 157 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,200 Suddenly you're sending out multiple emails a week, maybe even daily campaigns. 158 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,920 And those sending limits start to feel a lot more restrictive. Yeah, for sure. 159 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,840 Suddenly it's a problem. Right. And then you're faced with this choice, 160 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,520 either upgrade to a more expensive plan, 161 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,760 even if you only need that extra capacity for a short period, 162 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:17,200 or deal with the frustration of hitting those limits and having 163 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,680 your emails delayed. Neither option sounds very fun. No, not really. 164 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,000 So how does postal help? So that's where the scalability of postal really shines. 165 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,280 Okay. As you control your own server. Right. 166 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,960 You can easily adjust your capacity up or down whenever you need to. 167 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,040 So it's like having an elastic email system. Yeah, exactly. 168 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,320 You can like expand and contract to fit my needs. Precisely. That's cool. 169 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,520 And I imagine that flexibility also saves money in the long run. 170 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,280 It definitely can. You're only paying for what you're actually using. Right. 171 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Not some random limit set by a third party. Exactly. That makes a lot of sense. 172 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,200 And let's be real. Cost is a major factor for any business. Oh, absolutely. 173 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,720 Especially, you know, startups. Yeah, exactly. With limited budgets. 174 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,640 So it's not just about saving money though, right? 175 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,480 It's also about having like the peace of mind that my email system can handle 176 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,240 anything. Exactly. No more bottlenecks or delays, just smooth, 177 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,920 reliable email delivery. I like the sound of that. 178 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,800 It sounds like postal is putting the power back in the hands of the users. 179 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,520 I think that's a good way to put it. Yeah. 180 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,720 Giving them the tools to really like tailor their email systems to their specific 181 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,480 needs. Yeah. That's the beauty of open source. You know, 182 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,360 when we started this deep dive, I'll admit, I was a little bit skeptical. 183 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,880 This whole running my own mail server thing seemed really daunting. Yeah. 184 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,960 Like something that only hardcore tech people could handle. Yeah, I get that. 185 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,040 But you've painted a different picture. Good. Really highlighting, you know, 186 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,240 the accessibility of postal. Yeah. And the user friendliness, right? 187 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,040 And don't forget about the incredible support from the community. 188 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,200 That's true. That seems to be like a common thread with a lot of these open 189 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,200 source projects. Yeah, for sure. It's not just about the software. 190 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,920 It's about the people behind it. Absolutely. The shared knowledge, 191 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,920 the collaborative spirit, right? It's like, you're not alone in this. Exactly. 192 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:00,800 Okay. I'm starting to get it. 193 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,560 But we've talked about a lot of like the technical aspects and the benefits of 194 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:08,640 using postal, but I'm curious about like the bigger picture here. Okay. 195 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,480 What does the rise of these powerful user friendly open source 196 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,120 solutions like postal mean for the future of email? 197 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,960 Ooh, that's a great question. It feels like a shift is happening. It does. 198 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,160 And I think it speaks to a larger trend we're seeing across the entire tech 199 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,360 world. Okay. Like what? 200 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,640 People are really starting to look for alternatives to those big centralized 201 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,880 platforms that have traditionally dominated the internet. 202 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,760 It's like a shift from a closed ecosystem to a more open and decentralized one. 203 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,680 Exactly. And open source is a big part of that. It is. 204 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:44,760 They empower people and organizations to take control of their own digital 205 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,600 infrastructure. 206 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,400 So are we going to see this mass exodus from those big name email providers? 207 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,920 It's definitely possible as more people become aware of the advantages of open 208 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:59,040 source, the transparency, the customizability, the cost savings. 209 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,680 I think we'll see more and more businesses and individuals making the switch. 210 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:06,600 It's almost like a democratization of technology. I like that. 211 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,680 Putting the power back into the hands of the people. 212 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,560 Yeah. Empowering users, fostering innovation, 213 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:14,280 creating a more equitable digital landscape. 214 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,240 Now, before we wrap up this deep dive into postal and open source mail 215 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,400 delivery, I want to leave our listeners with like a final thought provoking 216 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,600 question. Okay. I like those with the rise of these powerful, 217 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,880 accessible alternatives. 218 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:32,200 What does the future hold for those big commercial email providers? 219 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,160 That's the million dollar question, isn't it? I think so. 220 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,240 Only time will tell, but one thing's for sure. 221 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,480 The landscape of email delivery is changing and open source solutions like 222 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,960 postal are at the forefront of that change. 223 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,840 Yeah. It really feels like we're at this like crossroads right now. 224 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,320 You know, on the one hand, 225 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,040 you've got these massive companies with tons of resources and a long history of, 226 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,080 you know, providing email services. And then on the other hand, 227 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,600 you have these like really nimble community driven, 228 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,640 open source solutions like postal that are gaining traction and offering like a 229 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,160 real alternative. Yeah. It's a classic David and Goliath story. I know, right. 230 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,840 But in tech, sometimes the underdogs have a surprising advantage. That's true. 231 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,400 I mean, they can move faster, innovate more quickly, 232 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,320 and really listen to the needs of their users. 233 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,200 And in a space like email where, you know, 234 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,880 personalization and control are becoming so important, 235 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,840 that could be a huge difference maker. Absolutely. 236 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,680 And I think a lot of businesses are starting to realize that, you know, 237 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,840 relying on just a single monolithic provider for something as crucial as email 238 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,320 can be pretty risky. It can be. Yeah. You know, 239 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:45,040 what happens if that provider has an outage or changes their pricing 240 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,680 structure or gets acquired by a company with, you know, different values? 241 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:52,080 Oh, that's a good point. It's like putting all your eggs in one basket. 242 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,280 Exactly. And that basket is controlled by someone else. 243 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,440 And you don't have any say over what happens to it. That's scary. 244 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,080 Open source solutions like postal are like a way to diversify, right? 245 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,720 Absolutely. Take back control, make sure that like my email infrastructure is 246 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,800 aligned with my own needs and values. And let's be honest, 247 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,280 there's something kind of appealing about supporting a community driven project 248 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,400 rather than, you know, just lining the pockets of another giant corporation. 249 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,680 For sure. I think a lot of people feel that way. Yeah. 250 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:23,600 There's that sense of ownership shared purpose that you just don't get with 251 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,160 proprietary software. You're a part of something bigger. It is. Yeah. 252 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:32,160 It's about building something valuable for everyone. Exactly. Well said. Okay. 253 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,360 So I think we've covered a lot of grand today. We have from, you know, 254 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,240 what postal is to the broader implications of open source and like the future of 255 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,120 email. And honestly, I'm waking this conversation, 256 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,840 feeling a lot more informed. That's great to hear. 257 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,200 And even a little bit inspired. I love that. 258 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:54,120 I love seeing people get excited about the possibilities of open 259 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,600 source. Yeah, it's pretty cool. 260 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,960 So for those listeners who are ready to kind of take the plunge and explore this 261 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:02,920 world of open source mail delivery, where should they start? 262 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,360 I mean, Postal's website is a great resource. 263 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,480 You can find all the documentation you need there, 264 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:12,080 links to the community forums and other helpful resources. 265 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,760 Awesome. And of course we can't forget about our amazing sponsor, Safe Server. 266 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,920 If you're looking for a reliable hosting solution for your open source projects, 267 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,920 or just need some guidance on your digital transformation journey, 268 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:29,960 they are the experts to call. Check them out at www.safeserver.de. 269 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,280 Definitely. Okay. So on that note, it's time to wrap up this deep dive. 270 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,960 But before we go, I want to leave our listeners with one final thought. 271 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Okay, shoot. The world of technology is constantly changing. 272 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:41,600 It is always changing. 273 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,880 The tools we use to communicate and connect are no exception. 274 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:45,640 That's true. 275 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,520 So don't be afraid to explore new possibilities, 276 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:54,560 challenge the status quo and embrace those solutions that empower you 277 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,680 and align with your values. I love that. 278 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,880 A huge thank you to all of our listeners for joining us on this adventure 279 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,440 into the world of open source and email delivery. Yes. Thank you for listening. 280 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:06,920 We hope you learned something new, 281 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,560 maybe discovered a new tool that can help you take control of your digital life. 282 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:16,040 Absolutely. Until next time, keep exploring, keep learning, keep diving deep. 283 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,080 Yeah. We'll see you on the next deep dive. See ya.