1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,360 Okay, buckle up, everyone, because today's deep dive is taking us somewhere. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,080 Well, let's just say it's a bit off the beaten path. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,960 Ooh, I like where this is going. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Hidden gems, seeker histories. 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,880 That's what we live for, right? 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:15,360 You know it. 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,160 We're talking Schleswig-Holstein. 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:17,920 Schleswig-Holstein. 9 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:18,400 Okay. 10 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,200 I'm intrigued. 11 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,520 I'll admit, I don't have a ton of preconceived notions about the place, which is great. 12 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,960 It means we can go in fresh. 13 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:25,920 Exactly. 14 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,960 And trust me, these sources, news articles, government websites, even some social media 15 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,600 buzz, they're painting a picture that's way more interesting than your average travel 16 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,200 brochure. 17 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,360 See, that's what gets me going. 18 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,720 Those unexpected layers. 19 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,040 You think you're getting the basic facts, but then bam, something completely throws 20 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:43,720 you for a loop. 21 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,040 Yeah. 22 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,880 Like I saw windmills and coastlines, right? 23 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,000 Pretty standard stuff. 24 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,600 But then sunken cities, digital pioneers battling deep fakes. 25 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,280 And don't even get me started on the smoke fish controversy we'll be digging into. 26 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:56,480 Okay. 27 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,560 Now you're speaking my language. 28 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,840 See, this is why we do these deep dives. 29 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,800 It's all about going beyond those initial impressions and uncovering the unexpected. 30 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Right. 31 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,760 And with Slusswick Holstein, it seems like we're dealing with a place that's both 32 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,680 deeply rooted in its history and traditions, but also charging headfirst into the 33 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,280 future. 34 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,040 A fascinating paradox. 35 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,760 It's like they're trying to bridge the gap between the old and the new. 36 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,680 And I'm all for it. 37 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:23,080 So where do we start our journey into this land of contrasts? 38 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Well, let's start by grounding ourselves in some current events, shall we? 39 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,120 I'm talking about those news headlines from slusswickholstein.de. 40 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,920 What jumped out at you when you took a look? 41 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,080 Honestly, it was the variety. 42 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,320 I mean, we've got everything from storm, flutterleaf efforts, a stork reminder of 43 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:46,920 their vulnerability to nature's forces, to articles about modernizing their railway 44 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:47,400 system. 45 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,120 It's like they're juggling these immediate challenges with these long-term 46 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,040 visions for the future. 47 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,000 OK, so they're not shying away from the tough stuff, but they're also looking 48 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,600 ahead, planning for the future. 49 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Precisely. 50 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,520 And then to top it off, they're at this smart country convention in Berlin. 51 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,240 It's like they're saying, hey, we're a small state, but we're not afraid to be 52 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,720 at the forefront of innovation. 53 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,600 OK, I'm getting a sense of their ambition, that's for sure. 54 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,080 This isn't a place content with just being picturesque. 55 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,800 They want to be players on a larger stage. 56 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Absolutely. And I think that's what makes this so exciting. 57 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,200 They're not just resting on their laurels. 58 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,000 They're actively shaping their own destiny. 59 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Now, you're making me think about that sunken city you mentioned earlier. 60 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,680 It sounds almost mythical. 61 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,720 Are we talking Atlantis levels of legend here or is there some 62 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,720 historical basis to this tale? 63 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Well, that's where things get really interesting. 64 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,880 OK, sunken cities. We'll come back to that. 65 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,240 But first, I got to ask about these Kielers Broughton. 66 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,920 I mean, it's right there in the name Kieler. 67 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,960 But then you read a bit further and find out they're not actually from Kiel. 68 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,080 It is a bit of a head scratcher, isn't it? 69 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,720 And it really highlights how these food traditions, they often have these, 70 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,080 well, let's call them twists and turns in their history. 71 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,000 Right. Like some culinary curveball. 72 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,920 So spill the beans. 73 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:04,200 If they're not from Kiel, where are these famous Broughton actually from? 74 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,600 Well, it turns out Echernfurta, 75 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,120 charming seaside town, not too far from Kiel itself. 76 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,520 That's where these tasty little fish really call home. 77 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,600 OK, so then how does Kiel end up getting top billing in the name? 78 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,080 Did they just like borrow the brand recognition or something? 79 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,440 It's more a case of, shall we say, 80 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,520 accidental marketing than any sort of grand scheme. 81 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,000 See, Echernfurta had a much smaller harbor than Kiel back in the day. 82 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,600 So practicality dictated that the Sprat, 83 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,360 they'd be shipped out from the bigger port, which was, you guessed it, Kiel. 84 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,680 So it's like a logistical loophole that ended up defining the whole brand. 85 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,360 It's funny how these things work out sometimes. 86 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,960 But, hey, while we're on the topic of names and branding, 87 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,000 this whole digital Andy human thing that Shalessia Holstein is promoting that 88 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,240 really jumped out at me. It feels very much of the moment, wouldn't you say? 89 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:51,960 Oh, absolutely. 90 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,520 And I think it speaks to a very real tension 91 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,960 that a lot of places are grappling with right now, which is how do you embrace 92 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,280 technological progress without losing sight of, well, 93 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,320 what makes you human in the first place? 94 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Right. It's like they're saying we can 95 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,920 have our high speed Internet and our strong sense of community, too. 96 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,520 But I'm curious, how does that actually play out in practice? 97 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,760 Is it more of a marketing slogan or are they walking the walk, so to speak? 98 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,200 From what I've gathered, 99 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,280 they're definitely putting their money where their mouth is. 100 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:24,520 For example, their participation in that 101 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,600 smart country convention we talked about earlier, 102 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,480 they were showcasing some really interesting initiatives there. 103 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,560 Oh, yeah. Like what? 104 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,800 Well, they were talking about their use of LoRaWAN technology. 105 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,160 LoRa what? No, you've lost me. 106 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,240 OK, so in a nutshell, it's a way to connect devices 107 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,800 over long distances without needing a ton of power. 108 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,400 So we're talking like rural broadband, that kind of thing. 109 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,440 Exactly. It's perfect for those more remote areas where it's not always 110 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,320 cost effective to roll out traditional broadband infrastructure. 111 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,640 OK, so that's pretty cool. 112 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,520 Using cutting edge tech to bridge the digital divide. 113 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,640 But they're also tackling some of the, 114 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,400 shall we say, less rosy aspects of the digital age, right? 115 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,760 That whole deep fake problem that's been causing such a stir. 116 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:09,760 Absolutely. 117 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,720 They're not shying away from those ethical considerations at all. 118 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,480 In fact, they have this initiative. 119 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,320 They call it deep fake detectives. 120 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,800 It's all about educating people about 121 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,280 the dangers of deep fakes and developing tools to spot them. 122 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:24,680 OK, that's smart, because honestly, 123 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,760 it feels like we're on the verge of this whole post truth world where you can't 124 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,520 believe anything you see or hear, but deep fakes. 125 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,760 I mean, trying to fight those. 126 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,720 It feels like playing whack-a-mole, doesn't it? 127 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,640 It's a huge challenge for sure, right. 128 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,040 But I think it's commendable that they're 129 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,960 not just throwing their hands up in the air and saying it's too big a problem. 130 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,840 They're actively trying to find solutions. 131 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:43,720 I like their style. 132 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,320 OK, but let's switch gears for a minute 133 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,120 and talk about something near and dear to my heart. 134 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:54,720 Culture, specifically those five, count them, five UNESCO intangible cultural 135 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,720 heritage traditions you mentioned, five. 136 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,840 That's going to be some kind of record for a single state, right? 137 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:02,160 It's definitely impressive. 138 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,840 And it speaks to the incredible richness and diversity of Schleswig Holstein's 139 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:10,240 cultural heritage. OK, so enough with the teasers giving the rundown. 140 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,040 What kind of traditions are we talking about here? 141 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,160 Well, prepare to be amazed because we've got everything from like 142 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:21,320 horseback riding competitions to ancient building techniques, even a boat. 143 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,280 That's like a symbol of resilience. 144 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:25,080 It's a real smorgasbord of tradition. 145 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,440 OK, you definitely piqued my curiosity. 146 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,800 Let's start with something that sounds, well, a little more high action. 147 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,200 This ring writing horseback riding competition, you said. 148 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,400 Tell me more. 149 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,280 So picture this. 150 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:41,120 You've got a whole procession of riders on horseback, right? 151 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,400 All decked out in traditional garb, looking very stately and they're galloping 152 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,760 along, lances in hand, aiming to spear this tiny little ring. 153 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,720 OK, that sounds like something out of a movie and a tad bit dangerous. 154 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,200 No, it definitely takes a lot of skill, that's for sure. 155 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,880 But it's not just about showmanship. 156 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,440 What's fascinating is that Tippish SH, they suggest this whole tradition might 157 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,360 have evolved from this practical necessity. 158 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,320 Back in the day, it was a way for people 159 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,400 to demonstrate their writing skills, just in case they needed to defend their community. 160 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:14,560 So it's rooted in this idea of being prepared, being ready to protect your own. 161 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,240 I love how these traditions often have these like hidden layers of meaning. 162 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaking of which, those bonfires on the beach, the bike Brennan, that sounds a bit 163 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,960 more my speed, less lance wielding, more marshmallow roasting, right? 164 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Well, I wouldn't recommend roasting marshmallows over these bonfires. 165 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,120 They're massive. Imagine this. 166 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,200 Towering flames, lighting up the night sky, 167 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:40,480 casting these flickering shadows across the sand and the air is filled with the 168 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,080 crackle of the fire, people singing traditional songs. 169 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,440 It's quite the spectacle. 170 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,320 OK, you had me at towering flames, 171 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,680 but there's got to be more to it than just, you know, a really big bonfire, right? 172 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,480 What's the deeper meaning behind this tradition? 173 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,840 It's all about transition. 174 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,440 See, this takes place in February, 175 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,600 marking the end of winter, the beginning of spring. 176 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,920 So it's this symbolic way of saying goodbye to the darkness, 177 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,840 welcoming back the light and the warmth. 178 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,680 I love that. 179 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,640 It's like a ritual for shaking off the winter blues. 180 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,440 OK, so we've got our equestrian skills 181 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,760 on display, our bonfire ritual to chase away the winter. 182 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Right. 183 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,720 What about that boat you mentioned, the one that's like a symbol of resilience? 184 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,200 How does a boat become such a powerful symbol? 185 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,680 Well, the Helgelander Dam for Berta, it's not just any boat. 186 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,920 It represents this like lifeline for the islanders. 187 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,960 You see Helgeland, it's this island out in the North Sea. 188 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,400 And this boat, it symbolizes their connection to the mainland, 189 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,080 their determination to stay connected. 190 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,120 Even when the weather is rough, the seas are treacherous. 191 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,160 It's about that unwavering spirit, that refusal to be isolated. 192 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:42,800 I dig it. 193 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,960 OK, before we get too carried away with boats and bonfires, 194 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,320 we can't forget about the other two UNESCO traditions, 195 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,720 the theater and the thatching, right? 196 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,720 Right. So Niederdeutsche Theater. 197 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,280 It's all about keeping the low German language alive, 198 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,080 but it's also about preserving a whole cultural identity. 199 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,760 It's a way for them to tell their stories in their own words, on their own terms. 200 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,200 It's like this living, breathing link to their heritage. 201 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,720 And then there's the reed, dock, decker, handwork. 202 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,280 Try saying that five times fast. 203 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,040 It's about thatching roofs with reeds, right? 204 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,800 It is. And it's amazing, you know, because on the surface, 205 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,480 it's a very practical skill, but it goes deeper than that. 206 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,880 It represents this deep connection 207 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,240 to nature, to using these traditional sustainable materials. 208 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,600 Yeah. Plus, you got to admit those thatched roofs. 209 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:26,920 They're just so charming. 210 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,520 OK, they really do add to the whole fairy tale aesthetic. 211 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,560 I'll give you that. Yeah. 212 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:34,080 So we've got horseback riders, bonfires, a resilient boat, 213 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,640 traditional theater and thatched roofs, Schleswig-Holstein. 214 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,000 It's like a greatest hits compilation of culture and history. 215 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:41,960 It really is. 216 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,920 And, you know, it's funny because we started 217 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,240 with this seemingly simple collection of sources. 218 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,680 But look where we ended up. 219 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:49,480 We uncovered sunken cities. 220 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,160 We explored this fascinating dance between tradition and innovation. 221 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,760 We even cracked the case of the misnamed fish. 222 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,840 That's the beauty of these deep dives, right? 223 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,360 You never know where they're going to take you. 224 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,400 Exactly. 225 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,760 So to our listeners out there, if you ever 226 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,560 find yourselves with a chance to explore Schleswig-Holstein, don't hesitate. 227 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:09,760 You might be surprised by what you discover. 228 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,320 Couldn't have said it better myself. 229 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,160 And with that, we'll wrap up this deep dive into the heart of Schleswig-Holstein. 230 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,160 Thanks for joining us.