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All right, everybody. Welcome back. We are doing a deep dive today and I'm so

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excited about this one. Oh yeah, this is a good one. Sogo. Sogo. And, uh,

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Sogo is an open source platform.

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It's aiming to bring email and collaboration tools to everyone.

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Right. Not just like big corporations and stuff. Exactly. Yeah.

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So imagine, I mean, if you can just imagine like having the same kind of robust

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system that, you know, these huge companies use, right.

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But it's totally free and you can customize it. Yeah. I mean,

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that's kind of the promise of Sogo.

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It is.

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And it's a really fascinating concept of the idea that open source software can

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level the playing field and it can give individuals and organizations more

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control over the technology that they use. Yeah, it's really cool. And so,

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I mean,

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one of the things that jumped out at me right away when I went to the Sogo

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website, it says it's been used in environments with thousands of users.

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Yeah. That's not just like, you know,

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it's setting up an email account for your grandma or something. Right. Yeah.

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That's serious business. When they talk about thousands of users,

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we're talking about scalability, you know,

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it needs to be able to handle a large number of users and a really heavy

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workload without, you know, bogging down or having performance issues. Right.

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Think about like a large nonprofit with, you know,

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hundreds of volunteers all needing to communicate and collaborate.

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Sogo can handle that. Yeah. And you wouldn't have to pay for, you know,

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expensive enterprise software. Exactly. So that's awesome.

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But, uh, okay. So we can handle all that stuff,

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but what does it actually like to use on a daily basis? Right. I mean,

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cause it says here rich Ajax based web interface.

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Okay. That's a little techie for me. Yeah. That sounds a little jargony.

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What does that even mean? Well, basically Ajax it allows Sogo to update things

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like your inbox in real time. Okay. So you see new messages right away.

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You don't have to hit refresh every time. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

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So you're not waiting for the whole page to reload every time you do something.

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It's a lot smoother of an experience. Got you.

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So it's more like the instant chat that we're used to as opposed to like old

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school text messaging. Yeah, that's cool. I like that. Okay, cool. Yeah. So, um,

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one of the other things that I noticed when I was going through this stuff is

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just like, I get a little overwhelmed by acronyms, right?

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It seems like every other word is an acronym, but you know, call dev,

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card dab, group, Davie, all that stuff. And then of course the big one,

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Microsoft active sync. Right. So like how does Sogo handle this complexity of,

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you know, people using Apple products, some people are using Microsoft.

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Like how does that all work?

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That's a really important point. And it looks like Sogo's done its homework here.

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You know, when we talk about compatibility, you know,

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ensuring that your information is going to stay in sync across all your devices,

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you know, you don't want to be wondering,

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do I have the latest version of this calendar appointment? Right.

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So these protocols that they've listed, you know,

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things like CalDef for calendars, CardDefy for contacts,

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that ensures that everything's talking to each other and working smoothly.

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Actives and compatibility is really important for folks who are using a lot of

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Microsoft products. You know, if you're heavily integrated into that world,

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this makes the transition to Sogo a lot easier,

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but it is worth noting that some features may not work exactly the same way as

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they do in Outlook or, you know, a native Microsoft environment.

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So it's not going to be like identical, but

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it's not going to be a hundred percent identical,

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but it's going to be pretty darn close. Okay, cool. All right. So, you know,

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this all sounds really awesome, but I'm just wondering,

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are there any trade-offs to using open source software?

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That's a really good question. Because, you know,

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like I think about things like security updates. Yeah. Like who's doing that.

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Or, you know, technical support. Like if I run into a problem, who do I call?

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Well, those are all valid concerns.

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And it is true that while open source software can be incredibly powerful and

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really cost effective, you know,

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it often requires a little bit more technical know-how to get it set up and to

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maintain it.

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You're not necessarily going to have a dedicated support hotline to call like

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you would with, you know, a paid software product.

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But the beauty of open source is that there is usually a very vibrant community

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of users and developers who are very passionate about the project,

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and they're often willing to help out. Cool. And when it comes to security,

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the open source nature of the software actually means that a lot more people are

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looking at the code.

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So vulnerabilities are often found and patched much quicker than they are

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in closed source software. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. So it's a bit of a trade off,

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you know? Yeah. But I think the benefits of open source often outweigh those.

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Okay, cool. I like that. So, um, one other thing I noticed when I was on the

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website, they have a try online demo link. Yeah,

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that's awesome. Which I think is super cool.

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I always think it's good to try before you commit. Oh, absolutely.

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Especially when you're talking about something as important as, you know,

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your email and your collaboration tools. Exactly.

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Especially if you're thinking about like, you know,

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switching your whole business over to this, right?

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You want to make sure that it's going to work for your needs. Exactly.

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So that demo is a great way to kind of test drive it. Yeah, totally.

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It's like taking a car for a test drive before you buy it. Exactly. That's awesome.

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All right, cool. So I think we've covered a lot of ground here. Yeah, I think so

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too.

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And if you are looking for a really powerful email and collaboration suite,

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yeah, that's not crazy expensive. Right.

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So go might be worth a deep dive of your own. Yeah, absolutely.

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And what's really exciting to me about this whole concept of open source

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software is that it goes beyond just saving money. Yeah. You know,

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it's really about having control over the technology that you use,

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having transparency, being able to actually shape the tools that you use to

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communicate and collaborate. Right. I mean,

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imagine being able to contribute to a project like SoGo and actually tailor it

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to your specific needs. Yeah. That's really the beauty of open source.

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That's so cool. I love that. All right, everybody.

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Thanks for tuning in to this deep dive. Yeah. Thanks for joining us.

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And we will catch you next time. See ya.