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Hey, everyone, and welcome back for another deep dive with us.

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Today, we're going to be taking a look at Vikunja.

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Vikunja.

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Vikunja, yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's this open source, self-hostable to-do app that, well,

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we're going to see if it can maybe help you get organized.

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But first, a real quick shout out to our sponsor, Safe Server.

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Yes.

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So if you are thinking about self-hosting software

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like Vikunja, these are the folks that you need to talk to.

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They can help you with hosting solutions and all sorts

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of digital transformation needs.

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And you can check them out at www.safeserver.de.

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Perfect.

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All right, so back to Vikunja.

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Right.

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We've got their website.

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And we also have taken a peek into their code over on Getea.

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Oh, very nice.

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Which is where they keep their kite public.

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It's a great way to see what Vikunja does,

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but also the thinking behind it.

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OK, so the Vikunja website describes itself

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as a fluffy to-do app.

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And I don't know about you, but that makes me think

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it's something cuddly and friendly.

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Not exactly what I picture when I

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think about a productivity tool.

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Yeah, well, it definitely sets a welcoming tone.

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It does.

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But fluffy aside, the important part

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is open source and self-hostable.

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And these are really key to what makes Vikunja so different.

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Right.

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So let's break that down.

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For folks who haven't encountered those terms before,

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what do they actually mean?

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Well, open source means that the code behind the app

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is open for anyone to see, change, and share.

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It's like a recipe that anyone can use and tweak.

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I like that.

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And this transparency allows for community contributions

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and a lot of flexibility.

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Self-hostable, on the other hand,

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means that you can run Vikunja on your own server.

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So you're not relying on some big company

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to keep your to-do safe and accessible.

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So you're in control, which a lot of people find appealing,

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especially if they're concerned about privacy.

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And speaking of privacy, Vikunja's origin story,

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as told on their website, really highlights that concern.

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The founder, Konrad, started Vikunja

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because he couldn't find any good open source

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to-do apps that respected user privacy.

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It's a common theme these days.

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It is.

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A lot of people are wanting more control over their data.

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So Vikunja was born out of a need for something different,

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something more in line with valuing user privacy.

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But does it have the features to back that up?

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Because let's be honest.

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Nobody wants a to-do app that's all principles

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and no functionality.

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Well, looking at their website, they've

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got a pretty solid set of features.

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They've got project organization, task assignment,

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collaboration tools, and multiple views,

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like lists, Gaunt charts, Kanban boards, even tables.

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That's a lot.

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I mean, I get the list view.

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That's pretty standard.

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But Gaunt charts and Kanban boards,

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those are more project management tools, right?

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They are.

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But think about how useful that could be.

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So let's say you're planning a trip.

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You could use the list view for packing.

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The Gaunt chart for scheduling your itinerary,

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and the Kanban board to track your progress on booking

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flights and accommodations.

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So Vikunja lets you choose the view

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that best suits your needs for each task or project.

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I'm starting to see the appeal.

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So it's not just about listing out tasks.

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It's about managing projects, even collaborating

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with others.

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But they mentioned two options for using Vikunja, the Vikunja

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Cloud or self-hosting.

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So what's the difference, and which one should someone choose?

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That's a good question.

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Well, Vikunja Cloud is definitely the easiest option.

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You just sign up, and they handle all the technical stuff.

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So it's great for people who just want a simple, hassle-free

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experience.

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But if you're a control freak like me

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and want to manage everything yourself,

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self-hosting is the way to go right.

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Probably, yeah.

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What are the downsides there, though?

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Well, you're responsible for setup, maintenance,

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And that can be a bit daunting for beginners.

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But if you're comfortable with the technical side,

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self-hosting gives you complete control over your data

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and how Vikunja runs.

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So convenience versus control.

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Makes sense.

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And speaking of the technical side,

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we've got a glimpse into Vikunja's code repository

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on GitEa.

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Over 10,965 commits, which, to someone like me,

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sounds like a lot of code.

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It is a lot of code.

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It is.

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But it shows how active the development is.

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One interesting commit I found was

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about switching to a smaller base

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image for their Docker container.

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This basically means they're trying

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to make Vikunja more secure by reducing

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potential vulnerabilities.

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So they're not just focused on adding fancy features.

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They're also thinking about practical things,

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like security.

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And they're very transparent about it.

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That's good.

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Which is a hallmark of open source projects.

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They even have buy me a coffee and sponsorship options

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on their website.

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I did see that.

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independently.

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So it seems like they're building Vikunja

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with a clear focus on user privacy,

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a robust set of features, and a commitment

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to being open and transparent.

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It's definitely an intriguing option

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for anyone looking to take control of their to-do list

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and potentially their data.

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And it raises an important question.

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What do you prioritize in your digital tools?

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Convenience, control, privacy.

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Thinking about that can really help

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you decide if Vikunja is the right fit for you.

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That's a good point.

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It's all about finding the right tool for you

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for your individual needs and values.

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That's true.

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And take a closer look at how Vikunja is actually built.

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We've got access to their code repository.

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So let's see what's happening under the hood.

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OK, so we're going from Fluffy to Techie now.

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I'm game.

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But remember, some of us aren't programmers.

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Can you make this code stuff relatable for us?

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So think of the code like the blueprint for the app.

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Remember those 10,965 commits we mentioned?

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Each one represents a change or improvement

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to that blueprint.

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But I'm curious, what kind of language are they using?

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Like, what are they speaking in this blueprint?

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Go.

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And it's known for its efficiency and its ability

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to handle lots of tasks at the same time.

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So Go is like the engine.

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What about the dashboard?

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Like the part that the user actually

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popular for building interactive interfaces.

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So Go powers the app.

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did any particular pieces stand out to you?

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One commit that caught my eye was

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related to using something called WebSockets.

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WebSockets?

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It is a little bit technical, but bear with me.

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on your experience as a user.

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Lay it on me.

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What are WebSockets?

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And they update a task on their end.

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With WebSockets, you would see that change instantly

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on your screen without having to refresh the page.

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keeping everything in sync.

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I get it now.

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That's pretty neat.

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It makes collaboration much smoother.

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Now, while all these technical details are fascinating,

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I think it's important to sort of zoom out

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and see how this translates to a better experience for you

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as the user.

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Vikunja's developers are clearly paying

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a lot of attention to the details,

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both in terms of features and the underlying code.

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when you're considering trusting

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your to-dos to an app.

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Speaking of which, let's talk about the people

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behind Vikunja.

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of what makes this project tick.

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They are the lifeblood of Vikunja.

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Open source projects thrive on their communities,

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and Vikunja has a really incredible, active,

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and welcoming community.

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OK, so we've got the fluffy mascot, the clean code,

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and now a bunch of friendly people.

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That's right.

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I'm starting to see why people like this Vikunja thing.

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Good.

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But what does a community for a to-do app actually look like?

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What are they doing?

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Well, it's not just about chit-chatting about to-do lists.

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People contribute in all sorts of ways.

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Coding, documentation, translations, testing.

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Some people even just help by spreading

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the word about Vikunja.

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So it's a real team effort.

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It is.

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With everyone chipping in to make the project better.

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That's impressive.

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I'm guessing this community has a home base somewhere online.

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They sure do.

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Vikunja has a really active forum

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where users can ask questions, share ideas, report bugs,

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and connect with each other.

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Also, it's like a virtual town square for all things Vikunja.

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Exactly.

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Love that.

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And for folks who prefer something a little more

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real-time, they have a chat platform too, right?

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Yes.

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They use Matrix for real-time conversations.

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Matrix.

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It's great for getting quick answers or having

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more informal discussions.

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So they've got all the bases covered.

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They do.

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That's fantastic.

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Yeah.

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It's inspiring to see so many people coming together

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to create something that's not only useful but also reflects

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their values around open source and privacy.

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It really is.

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And this community is a big part of why Vakunja can

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stay true to those values.

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That makes sense.

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Yeah.

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They even have buy me a coffee and sponsorship options

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on their website, which shows their commitment

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to staying independent and community driven.

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That makes a lot of sense.

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They're not beholden to some big corporation dictating

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what features to add or how to handle user data.

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Exactly.

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Before we move on, I just want to remind everyone

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that we'll have links to all these community resources

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in the show notes.

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So don't worry about trying to remember everything right now.

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And if you're thinking about self-hosting Vikunja,

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remember our sponsor, Safe Server.

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Oh, yeah.

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They can help you set everything up

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and make sure things run smoothly.

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That's right.

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Visit them at www.safeserver.de for more information.

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Great point.

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Yeah.

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Now, as we wrap up this part of our deep dive,

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what's the one key takeaway you hope

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our listeners are getting about the Vikunja community?

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For me, it's the collaborative spirit.

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It feels like everyone involved from the developers

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to the users is invested in making

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Vikunja the best it can be.

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I agree.

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It's that shared sense of ownership and purpose

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that makes open source projects so special.

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Now, for those inspired to get involved,

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how can they contribute to the Vikunja project?

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And that's a great question.

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I imagine there are folks listening

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who might be thinking, hey, I have some coding skills,

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or I'm great at writing documentation,

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or maybe I just want to spread the word.

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What are their options?

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Well, if you're a coder, you can jump right

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into the code repository on Kitea

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and submit what are called pull requests.

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Pull requests.

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Yeah, that's basically how you propose

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changes or new features.

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OK, so that's for the tech savvy folks.

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Right.

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But what about those of us who aren't programmers?

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Yeah.

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Are there ways to contribute without needing to know code?

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Absolutely.

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There are tons of non-coding contributions

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that are just as valuable.

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You could help with writing or translating documentation,

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testing new features, or even just spreading the word

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about Vikunja on social media.

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So even if you're not a tech wizard,

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you can still make a difference.

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Exactly.

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And for those who want to support the project

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financially, there's always the option

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to buy the developers a coffee or become a sponsor.

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Exactly.

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Every little bit helps to keep the project going.

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Right.

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And even if you can't contribute directly,

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just using Vikunja and providing feedback is incredibly helpful.

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The developers are always listening and making improvements

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based on what users tell them.

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So even just by being an active user,

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you're part of the Vikunja journey.

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You are.

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That's pretty cool.

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Exploring Vikunja has really changed

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how I think about to-do apps.

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It's not just about checking boxes anymore.

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It's about finding a tool that reflects your values

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and empowers you to work the way you want.

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I think that's a key takeaway for everyone listening.

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Vikunja is more than just a to-do app.

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It's a statement about taking control of your digital life

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and supporting a different way of building software.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Okay, good.

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So to wrap things up,

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if you're looking for a to-do app that's open, transparent,

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puts you in control, check out Vikunja.

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Absolutely.

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Explore its features, connect with the community,

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and see if it's the right fit for you.

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And remember, if self-hosting sounds appealing

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but a bit daunting, our sponsor Safe Server can help.

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Thanks for that reminder.

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And that's a wrap for our deep dive into Vikunja,

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the fluffy, open source, self-hostable to-do app that's

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making waves in the productivity world.

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It is.

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Until next time, keep exploring, keep learning,

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and keep diving deep.