Today's Deep-Dive: PeerTube
Ep. 08

Today's Deep-Dive: PeerTube

Episode description

This is a conversational podcast episode that discusses PeerTube, a decentralized video platform. The hosts explore how PeerTube offers an alternative to YouTube, focusing on user control, freedom, and digital sovereignty. They explain that instead of one large platform, PeerTube operates through smaller, independent communities where creators have more autonomy over their content. The conversation touches on PeerTube’s transparency, open-source nature, and its decentralized moderation system, with each community setting its own rules.

The episode emphasizes that PeerTube is not aiming to compete directly with YouTube but instead provides a different experience focused on collaboration and niche communities. The hosts also mention potential challenges, like moderation, and highlight an art project using PeerTube to bypass copyright restrictions. They conclude by encouraging listeners to explore PeerTube, emphasizing choice and control in the digital space.

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Ever feel like you're stuck like in a YouTube rut, just endlessly scrolling, you know, feeding

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the algorithm?

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Yeah, I've been there.

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And we've had a bunch of questions from you all about alternatives, platforms that maybe

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give you more control over your video content.

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So that's what we're diving into today, this whole PeerTube thing.

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It's interesting you mentioned control, actually, because that really gets at the heart of platforms

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like PeerTube, that decentralization aspect.

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Decentralized.

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So for those of us who, you know, don't speak fluent tech, what does that actually mean?

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Like for our videos, for how we watch things?

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So imagine instead of this one giant YouTube, right?

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You've got all these smaller PeerTube communities, each with its own sort of flavor, its own

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focus.

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Okay.

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More like if you think about it like independent bookstores versus just going to Amazon.

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Okay.

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So less corporate overlords, more like mom and pop video shop.

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I kind of like the sound of that.

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Yeah.

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It's actually a viable alternative is this, you know, is PeerTube really going to replace

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YouTube?

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Well, let's, uh, let's dig into some of these sources you got.

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We can, we can see what they had to say.

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You brought some, uh, technical guides, some, some pretty passionate arguments in favor

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of self-hosting your videos and even an art project that, uh, uses PeerTube in a way I

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wasn't expecting.

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Definitely not.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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So first up this Drupal article, um, I'm not gonna lie, I felt like I needed like a computer

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science degree just to get through it.

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Yeah.

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It's a little technical, but once I kind of like got past all the jargon, it basically

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shows you how to add your own, uh, PeerTube video source to a website, right?

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It's about, um, cutting out the middle end essentially.

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So instead of going through and embedding from YouTube, you host your videos on PeerTube

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and then you can embed them directly from your PeerTube account.

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Okay.

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So more control, more control, fewer restrictions.

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So fewer restrictions.

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So like that whole thing where people are like, oh, what if YouTube changes its rules

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and then suddenly like my videos are gone or, you know, they get lost in the algorithm.

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Exactly.

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That's not a concern here.

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You're in the driver's seat, which is, you know, it all goes back to that idea of digital

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sovereignty, right?

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Like it's, it's your content, your rules, you decide.

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Okay.

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So next up we have this, um, this piece and I got to say this author is fire DP about

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breaking free from YouTube.

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They love it, they use it for tutorials, all that, but they're concerned like about the

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Google connection, the algorithms, the whole, the whole thing.

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Yeah.

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And, and it's not even just about, uh, it's not even just about Google, right?

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Like anytime, anytime you build on somebody else's platform, you're kind of beholden to

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their terms of service, their decisions.

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And you know, this article is less about, uh, YouTube bad.

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It's more about taking ownership, you know, over your own, your online presence.

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Okay.

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So then that brings us to pure tube itself, right?

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Like we're looking at their, uh, their FAQ page and okay, full disclosure.

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I thought FAQ pages were like the most boring thing on the internet, but this, this was

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actually really interesting.

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They're very upfront about not trying to be YouTube, right?

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That's not their goal.

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Instead.

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It seems like they're much more about fostering this network of interconnected video communities,

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which is a very different approach.

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Yeah.

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It's more about collaboration than competition in a way.

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Okay.

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I like that.

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And I really appreciate their transparency, honestly, like they're not shying away from

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the challenges.

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You know, they talk about, uh, they talk about things like moderation, right?

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They get into content policies.

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They even acknowledge their own limitations as, as a smaller team.

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Okay.

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And speaking of limitations, how about this?

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They come right out and say that basically pure tube is run by one full time developer,

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which just blows my mind given everything we've just talked about.

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I know.

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Right.

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It really puts things into perspective.

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It's pretty wild, right?

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Like one developer, this tiny team going up against, you know, the YouTube behemoth.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And they're not even afraid to talk about it.

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Like one of the, uh, one of the things they actually address in the FAQ is this whole

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like what if they disappear question, which let's be real as a valid concern with any

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new platform.

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Oh, totally.

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If you're, you know, if you're putting your heart and soul into building a community and

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creating content and then suddenly poof, it's gone.

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Right.

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But that's kind of where PeerTube's, um, open source nature, I think really shines because

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even if like Framersoft, the organization behind it would have like vanished tomorrow,

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the code itself is still out there.

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Okay.

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Anyone can pick it up, use it, build on it.

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It's, it's like this video platform, Phoenix, always rising from the ashes.

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I like that.

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Okay.

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I see like why people are so, so passionate about this.

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Like it's not even just about watching videos anymore, right?

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It's about, it's about like having a say in how the internet works.

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It's that digital ownership thing again, it's about having control and making choices.

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And I think that really comes through in that art project we touched on earlier, the one

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with the world cup matches.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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2006, right?

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Yeah.

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And they're recreating them like the whole thing.

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They didn't want to deal with like FIFA's copyright restrictions, so they found a way

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to do it themselves.

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Talk about dedication, like recreating entire world cup matches using, like who even knows

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what kind of methods.

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Right.

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It's incredible.

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And it makes you realize how much creativity is out there.

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Oh yeah.

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Just, you know, maybe struggling to find the right platform.

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Totally.

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And so they land on PeerTube, like this platform that actually aligns with their values, right?

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Like open access, creative freedom.

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It's really kind of cool.

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It is.

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It's like art and technology and a little bit of rebellion all rolled into one.

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I like it.

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But okay, let's, let's be real for a sec.

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Can PeerTube really, I mean, can it compete with YouTube?

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Like with the sheer volume of content?

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Yeah.

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YouTube's like the, the what?

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The Grand Canyon of online video.

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It's massive.

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Yeah.

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And you're right.

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It's got like a zillion videos on every topic imaginable.

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Right.

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But PeerTube isn't trying to be a YouTube clone, right?

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Like that's not the goal.

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It's about offering something different, creating a different kind of space.

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So less about the views, less about the subscribers, and less about like, you know, getting sucked

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into the algorithm.

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So it's less about competing with YouTube and more about like offering a genuine alternative,

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right?

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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So maybe you're tired of, you know, the YouTube algorithms, or you just want a place where

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you can actually like connect with viewers who are like into the same stuff you are.

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And because it's decentralized, you're not limited to that one giant community, right?

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You can find these smaller, more niche instances, uh, dedicated to, you know, like independent

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filmmaking, or open source software, or hey, even like vintage world cup recreations.

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Right.

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There's a whole world out there.

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Exactly.

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Okay.

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But, uh, what about the downsides?

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There's gotta be some, right?

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What about like moderation?

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Cause that's always a concern for me with, you know, any online community, but especially

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one that's, you know, trying to be an alternative.

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It's a really good question.

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Wait, how do they handle like bad actors, harmful content?

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So it all goes back to that decentralized thing, right?

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Each instance, each community has its own rules, its own moderation policies.

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So it's not like there's one set of rules for like all of PeerTube?

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Right.

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Exactly.

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Okay.

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Think of it like this.

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Each, each PeerTube instance is like its own, like little country, you know, they have their

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own like governing principles or own ways of doing things.

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Okay.

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So it's a lot more like local governance.

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Exactly.

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Which kind of puts more responsibility than on like the creators, the users, like keep

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things in check.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, they provide the tools.

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So PeerTube itself provides tools for reporting content, moderating things, but it's really,

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it's up to each community to, you know.

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To make it work.

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Yeah.

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To use those tools effectively.

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It really makes you think about like the future of online video, doesn't it?

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Because it's not just about which platform has like the most videos or the best, you

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know, whatever.

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Right.

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It's about like which platforms actually, you know, kind of share your values, I guess.

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I think so.

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And prioritize the things we care about, like, you know, control and transparency and just

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that sense of like ownership.

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And community.

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That's a big one too.

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Community, yeah.

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Like, and that's the thing about the internet, right?

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Like it's constantly changing.

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What seems totally radical one day is, you know, normal the next.

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Totally.

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Who knows?

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Maybe in a couple of years, we'll all be talking about which PeerTube instance we use.

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Oh, that's interesting.

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Right.

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Instead of like, oh, are you a YouTube person?

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Right.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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It's just, it's about having those options.

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I think.

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Yeah.

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I like that from like, you know, one giant platform to all these like little communities.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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It's pretty cool.

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And it really, I think it all comes down to having that choice.

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Right.

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You get to decide where you want to spend your time, what creators you want to support.

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Yeah.

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of like digital world you want to live in.

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Yeah, I like it. So to wrap things up, if you are, you know, feeling even a little bit

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adventurous, or maybe just like a tad disillusioned with, you know, with how things are, yeah,

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PureTube is it's definitely worth checking out. You might just, you know, discover a whole

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new side of online video, one where you actually have a voice and a choice.

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And you can be a part of something new.

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dive. Until next time, keep exploring, keep questioning and keep the conversation going.

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dive. Until next time, keep exploring, keep questioning and keep the conversation going.