Today's Deep-Dive: Schleswig-Holstein
Ep. 20

Today's Deep-Dive: Schleswig-Holstein

Episode description

This episode is an enthusiastic deep dive into the cultural and historical richness of Schleswig-Holstein, a region in northern Germany. It highlights the unexpected layers beyond the usual travel brochure depictions of windmills and coastlines. The narrative touches on a variety of topics, from current events like storm challenges and railway modernization, to future-forward initiatives such as the use of LoRaWAN technology and the fight against deep fakes.

Key cultural highlights include Schleswig-Holstein’s five UNESCO intangible cultural heritage traditions, which range from ring-riding horseback competitions and massive bonfires (symbolizing the end of winter), to a resilient island boat symbol and the preservation of Low German theater. The deep dive also delves into quirky details like the famous Kieler Sprotten (sprats) not actually coming from Kiel, and how Schleswig-Holstein bridges its historical roots with forward-thinking technological advances.

The narrative conveys a deep appreciation for the region’s blend of history, tradition, and innovation, inviting listeners to explore beyond the surface and discover the hidden gems of Schleswig-Holstein.

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Okay, buckle up, everyone, because today's deep dive is taking us somewhere.

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Well, let's just say it's a bit off the beaten path.

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Ooh, I like where this is going.

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Hidden gems, seeker histories.

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That's what we live for, right?

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You know it.

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We're talking Schleswig-Holstein.

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Schleswig-Holstein.

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Okay.

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I'm intrigued.

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I'll admit, I don't have a ton of preconceived notions about the place, which is great.

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It means we can go in fresh.

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Exactly.

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And trust me, these sources, news articles, government websites, even some social media

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buzz, they're painting a picture that's way more interesting than your average travel

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brochure.

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See, that's what gets me going.

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Those unexpected layers.

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You think you're getting the basic facts, but then bam, something completely throws

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you for a loop.

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Yeah.

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Like I saw windmills and coastlines, right?

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Pretty standard stuff.

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But then sunken cities, digital pioneers battling deep fakes.

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And don't even get me started on the smoke fish controversy we'll be digging into.

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Okay.

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Now you're speaking my language.

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See, this is why we do these deep dives.

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It's all about going beyond those initial impressions and uncovering the unexpected.

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Right.

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And with Slusswick Holstein, it seems like we're dealing with a place that's both

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deeply rooted in its history and traditions, but also charging headfirst into the

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future.

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A fascinating paradox.

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It's like they're trying to bridge the gap between the old and the new.

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And I'm all for it.

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So where do we start our journey into this land of contrasts?

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Well, let's start by grounding ourselves in some current events, shall we?

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I'm talking about those news headlines from slusswickholstein.de.

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What jumped out at you when you took a look?

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Honestly, it was the variety.

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I mean, we've got everything from storm, flutterleaf efforts, a stork reminder of

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their vulnerability to nature's forces, to articles about modernizing their railway

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system.

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It's like they're juggling these immediate challenges with these long-term

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visions for the future.

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OK, so they're not shying away from the tough stuff, but they're also looking

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ahead, planning for the future.

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Precisely.

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And then to top it off, they're at this smart country convention in Berlin.

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It's like they're saying, hey, we're a small state, but we're not afraid to be

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at the forefront of innovation.

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OK, I'm getting a sense of their ambition, that's for sure.

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This isn't a place content with just being picturesque.

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They want to be players on a larger stage.

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Absolutely. And I think that's what makes this so exciting.

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They're not just resting on their laurels.

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They're actively shaping their own destiny.

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Now, you're making me think about that sunken city you mentioned earlier.

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It sounds almost mythical.

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Are we talking Atlantis levels of legend here or is there some

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historical basis to this tale?

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Well, that's where things get really interesting.

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OK, sunken cities. We'll come back to that.

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But first, I got to ask about these Kielers Broughton.

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I mean, it's right there in the name Kieler.

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But then you read a bit further and find out they're not actually from Kiel.

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It is a bit of a head scratcher, isn't it?

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And it really highlights how these food traditions, they often have these,

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well, let's call them twists and turns in their history.

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Right. Like some culinary curveball.

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So spill the beans.

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If they're not from Kiel, where are these famous Broughton actually from?

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Well, it turns out Echernfurta,

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charming seaside town, not too far from Kiel itself.

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That's where these tasty little fish really call home.

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OK, so then how does Kiel end up getting top billing in the name?

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Did they just like borrow the brand recognition or something?

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It's more a case of, shall we say,

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accidental marketing than any sort of grand scheme.

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See, Echernfurta had a much smaller harbor than Kiel back in the day.

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So practicality dictated that the Sprat,

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they'd be shipped out from the bigger port, which was, you guessed it, Kiel.

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So it's like a logistical loophole that ended up defining the whole brand.

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It's funny how these things work out sometimes.

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But, hey, while we're on the topic of names and branding,

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this whole digital Andy human thing that Shalessia Holstein is promoting that

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really jumped out at me. It feels very much of the moment, wouldn't you say?

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Oh, absolutely.

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And I think it speaks to a very real tension

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that a lot of places are grappling with right now, which is how do you embrace

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technological progress without losing sight of, well,

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what makes you human in the first place?

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Right. It's like they're saying we can

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have our high speed Internet and our strong sense of community, too.

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But I'm curious, how does that actually play out in practice?

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Is it more of a marketing slogan or are they walking the walk, so to speak?

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From what I've gathered,

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they're definitely putting their money where their mouth is.

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For example, their participation in that

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smart country convention we talked about earlier,

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they were showcasing some really interesting initiatives there.

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Oh, yeah. Like what?

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Well, they were talking about their use of LoRaWAN technology.

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LoRa what? No, you've lost me.

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OK, so in a nutshell, it's a way to connect devices

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over long distances without needing a ton of power.

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So we're talking like rural broadband, that kind of thing.

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Exactly. It's perfect for those more remote areas where it's not always

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cost effective to roll out traditional broadband infrastructure.

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OK, so that's pretty cool.

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Using cutting edge tech to bridge the digital divide.

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But they're also tackling some of the,

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shall we say, less rosy aspects of the digital age, right?

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That whole deep fake problem that's been causing such a stir.

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Absolutely.

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They're not shying away from those ethical considerations at all.

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In fact, they have this initiative.

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They call it deep fake detectives.

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It's all about educating people about

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the dangers of deep fakes and developing tools to spot them.

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OK, that's smart, because honestly,

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it feels like we're on the verge of this whole post truth world where you can't

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believe anything you see or hear, but deep fakes.

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I mean, trying to fight those.

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It feels like playing whack-a-mole, doesn't it?

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It's a huge challenge for sure, right.

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But I think it's commendable that they're

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not just throwing their hands up in the air and saying it's too big a problem.

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They're actively trying to find solutions.

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I like their style.

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OK, but let's switch gears for a minute

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and talk about something near and dear to my heart.

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Culture, specifically those five, count them, five UNESCO intangible cultural

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heritage traditions you mentioned, five.

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That's going to be some kind of record for a single state, right?

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It's definitely impressive.

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And it speaks to the incredible richness and diversity of Schleswig Holstein's

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cultural heritage. OK, so enough with the teasers giving the rundown.

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What kind of traditions are we talking about here?

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Well, prepare to be amazed because we've got everything from like

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horseback riding competitions to ancient building techniques, even a boat.

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That's like a symbol of resilience.

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It's a real smorgasbord of tradition.

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OK, you definitely piqued my curiosity.

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Let's start with something that sounds, well, a little more high action.

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This ring writing horseback riding competition, you said.

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Tell me more.

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So picture this.

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You've got a whole procession of riders on horseback, right?

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All decked out in traditional garb, looking very stately and they're galloping

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along, lances in hand, aiming to spear this tiny little ring.

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OK, that sounds like something out of a movie and a tad bit dangerous.

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No, it definitely takes a lot of skill, that's for sure.

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But it's not just about showmanship.

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What's fascinating is that Tippish SH, they suggest this whole tradition might

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have evolved from this practical necessity.

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Back in the day, it was a way for people

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to demonstrate their writing skills, just in case they needed to defend their community.

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So it's rooted in this idea of being prepared, being ready to protect your own.

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I love how these traditions often have these like hidden layers of meaning.

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Speaking of which, those bonfires on the beach, the bike Brennan, that sounds a bit

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more my speed, less lance wielding, more marshmallow roasting, right?

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Well, I wouldn't recommend roasting marshmallows over these bonfires.

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They're massive. Imagine this.

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Towering flames, lighting up the night sky,

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casting these flickering shadows across the sand and the air is filled with the

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crackle of the fire, people singing traditional songs.

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It's quite the spectacle.

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OK, you had me at towering flames,

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but there's got to be more to it than just, you know, a really big bonfire, right?

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What's the deeper meaning behind this tradition?

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It's all about transition.

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See, this takes place in February,

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marking the end of winter, the beginning of spring.

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So it's this symbolic way of saying goodbye to the darkness,

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welcoming back the light and the warmth.

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I love that.

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It's like a ritual for shaking off the winter blues.

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OK, so we've got our equestrian skills

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on display, our bonfire ritual to chase away the winter.

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Right.

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What about that boat you mentioned, the one that's like a symbol of resilience?

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How does a boat become such a powerful symbol?

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Well, the Helgelander Dam for Berta, it's not just any boat.

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It represents this like lifeline for the islanders.

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You see Helgeland, it's this island out in the North Sea.

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And this boat, it symbolizes their connection to the mainland,

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their determination to stay connected.

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Even when the weather is rough, the seas are treacherous.

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It's about that unwavering spirit, that refusal to be isolated.

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I dig it.

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OK, before we get too carried away with boats and bonfires,

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we can't forget about the other two UNESCO traditions,

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the theater and the thatching, right?

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Right. So Niederdeutsche Theater.

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It's all about keeping the low German language alive,

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but it's also about preserving a whole cultural identity.

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It's a way for them to tell their stories in their own words, on their own terms.

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It's like this living, breathing link to their heritage.

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And then there's the reed, dock, decker, handwork.

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Try saying that five times fast.

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It's about thatching roofs with reeds, right?

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It is. And it's amazing, you know, because on the surface,

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it's a very practical skill, but it goes deeper than that.

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It represents this deep connection

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to nature, to using these traditional sustainable materials.

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Yeah. Plus, you got to admit those thatched roofs.

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They're just so charming.

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OK, they really do add to the whole fairy tale aesthetic.

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I'll give you that. Yeah.

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So we've got horseback riders, bonfires, a resilient boat,

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traditional theater and thatched roofs, Schleswig-Holstein.

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It's like a greatest hits compilation of culture and history.

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It really is.

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And, you know, it's funny because we started

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with this seemingly simple collection of sources.

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But look where we ended up.

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We uncovered sunken cities.

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We explored this fascinating dance between tradition and innovation.

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We even cracked the case of the misnamed fish.

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That's the beauty of these deep dives, right?

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You never know where they're going to take you.

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Exactly.

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So to our listeners out there, if you ever

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find yourselves with a chance to explore Schleswig-Holstein, don't hesitate.

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You might be surprised by what you discover.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Thanks for joining us.

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Thanks for joining us.